Submitted by OliverHPerry t3_zwqos8 in newjersey
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SnooBooks4898 t1_j1wbz4b wrote
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't it take a very long time to get into this union? If so, this guy has got to be kicking himself in the ass.
Wildwilly54 t1_j1wl8td wrote
Doesn’t take a long time if you have the right “connections”, but it is difficult to get in. For a Union gig they get paid very well.
Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_j1ylef5 wrote
I mean it's a job that destroys your body and it's actually an extremely dangerous union job in our country. Damn right they better be paid well.
MJM-from-NYC t1_j1ym9k9 wrote
Please post the statistics that show its “the most dangerous union job in the nation”. I’d be interested to see those numbers. In my work as a union rep, I believe my research shows that construction is the most dangerous major industry and private sanitation and timbering/logging are the two most dangerous minor industry professions.
Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_j1ynj7k wrote
Don't have a source off hand other than my father was a longshoremen for 40+ years and the union rep sorry 🤷🏻♂️ I'll edit the phrasing my bad. Irregardless it's an extremely dangerous place to work, my father has seen and had many workers get decapitated on site, run over, crushed, and more.
SirLauncelot t1_j20q9vg wrote
I vaguely remember underwater welding being the most dangerous Union job. Is that what he was doing?
donny_pots t1_j1whsxb wrote
It’s definitely a highly coveted position
Jake_FromStateFarm27 t1_j1ylbfd wrote
It's incredibly difficult to get a job at the port nowadays despite them desperately needing people.
CrackaZach05 t1_j1wzghj wrote
Sounds like someone got smart to his no-show job and tattled. Good. Now vote him out and you have one less corrupt politician.
Skerppp t1_j1w8epk wrote
Good, lmao. Why should others have to work to get paid but he can just get paid.
outcome--independent t1_j1xau2e wrote
Lmao there's definitely more to the story.
PirateForward8827 t1_j1way02 wrote
Bi-state commission run by unions, corrupt politicians and organized crime terminates double dipping assemblyman. Yeah, might be more to this story.
OliverHPerry OP t1_j1wdtya wrote
Honestly, the whole agency is really bizarre. The headlines from their news releases all look like they could be from the 1950s. All of these headlines are from this past year:
- Nine Members and Associated of Genovese and Bonanno Organized Crime Families Charged with Racketeering and Illegal Gambling Offenses
- Genovese Soldiers Elia “Chinatown’ Albanese and Carmine “Baby Carm” Russo and Seven Others Arrested After Joint Investigation
- Gambino Crime Family Captain Sentenced to 37 Months in Prison and Ordered to Pay $1 Million in Restitution for Racketeering Conspiracy
And apparently, the agency themselves are engaged in seriously shady activity. https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/12/nyregion/12waterfront.html
>The 61-page report, deploring a “complete breakdown of the commission’s audit and enforcement functions,” found that the commission’s general counsel, Jon Deutsch, later fired, masterminded a scheme to conceal a convicted felon’s ownership of a company so he could continue to operate on the waterfront. It also found that federal antiterrorism grants were misused or could not be accounted for, calling for further investigation by the Department of Homeland Security.
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>The reported failings ranged from the critical to the comical. The report said the commission often stalemated by differences between the two $43,500-a-year commissioners abandoned background checks on the longshoremen who unload ships and the stevedoring companies that employ them, creating a critical breach in the nation’s security web. Instead, the report said, commission detectives spent their mornings parked in the commissioners’ designated parking spots in Lower Manhattan, guarding them from interlopers.
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>It portrayed the agency as a patronage-laden favor bank where staff members took cars for personal use, a boat that was bought with federal money to fend off a “waterborne attack” was used primarily to ferry V.I.P.’s during Fleet Week, and friends got friends jobs with high salaries and little work.
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>One detective failed his entry exam twice, for example until Commissioner Madonna himself slipped him the test, the report said, and he ended up turning in the highest score in the history of the commission.
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>“The most egregious instances of misconduct” were committed by the general counsel and former licensing director, Mr. Deutsch, who was “plagued with conflicts of interest” before being dismissed last October, the report said. It said he covered up the drug-related arrest of a former state senator’s son who was hired for a stevedoring job and intervened on behalf of a friend’s father, Albert Cernades Sr., a longshoremen’s union official later indicted in a federal inquiry.
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>It also found that none of the 53 stevedoring companies supervised by the commission had been granted permanent five-year licenses, as required, and that payroll audits of them were as much as 14 years behind.
Yikes.
Now New Jersey wants out and New York refuses to let them leave, so it's going to the Supreme Court.
PirateForward8827 t1_j1wxhlo wrote
Most NJ state agencies and commission are inefficient and corrupt, the bistate authorities are the worst. This one, the Port Authority, the DRJTBC are all tremendous money wasters.
sirusfox t1_j1xejvn wrote
Still works better than anything out in the plains states
PirateForward8827 t1_j1yqq3i wrote
What works better?
sirusfox t1_j1yvxwt wrote
Honestly, things here in NJ by a long shot. There may be corruption and waste, but at least things still get built.
Papa_Louie_677 t1_j1x1wpe wrote
I am curious if there are any mob connections still with this union. Not sure if anyone knows lol.
OliverHPerry OP t1_j1x5l3w wrote
According to the Commission's press reports, they've been cleaning up Genovese and Bonanno activity all year.
scrubjays t1_j1xlu9q wrote
Only in NJ could someone be a longshoreman AND an assemblyman.
invaderjif t1_j1xou5d wrote
Not anymore he's not!
wipeyourtears t1_j1xwra8 wrote
NJ Legislature Senators and Assembly members serve as part-time govt officials. They are paid as such at around $49k/yr as of 2016- https://www.nj.com/politics/2016/04/how_pay_for_nj_lawmakers_compares_to_other_49_stat.html
Every Assembly-person I know serving in NJ has a full-time job. Don’t have stats but many are attorneys, but a few are of the working class. Google NJ state senator mattress delivery driver in SJ.
scrubjays t1_j1xx1vo wrote
As a longshoreman? Most of the ones I am familiar with are decidedly more white collar than that.
Njsybarite t1_j1x4phw wrote
What do you think?
Jsmith0730 t1_j1y0498 wrote
As someone born and raised there, it’s just Bayonne being Bayonne heh.
donny_pots t1_j1whqdm wrote
Union politics
OliverHPerry OP t1_j1w7gn1 wrote
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kiLLxander t1_j1wuuvv wrote
I don’t think there’s a big story here.
Longshoremen get work orders. Orders. It’s a rule that you cannot skirt around work orders without good cause.
Every man is supposed to be equal in unions. Even being assemblyman doesn’t get you off that. Couldn’t fill his duties so they cut him.