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PEVEI OP t1_jad7zgl wrote

Reply to comment by Littlebotweak in Isla Bryson: Transgender rapist jailed for eight years by PEVEI

This is one of those "read the article" moments, she wasn't trans when she committed her crimes so that isn't even a factor. This is not a right wing "gotcha" in the slightest. This is the person who started transitioning after they were in custody, which led to he row over where they should be incarcerated, a women's prison or a men's prison. At first they were placed in a women's facility.

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Saltire_Blue t1_jade0av wrote

Segregated in a women’s facility while the Scottish Prison Service carried out a risk assessment as they do with all trans prisoners and decided they wouldn’t be held in a women’s prison

No idea why you wouldn’t miss that part out

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Littlebotweak t1_jaday5b wrote

I did read the article. This person seems to be doing this on purpose to test these very systems, so the system will have to adapt, as it always has. I'm not saying that it will be a good or bad outcome, just that there's an adaptation here that isn't unique to this circumstance. We've already seen it and will continue to see it, so it's time to adapt.

I don't know the perfect solution, but I do know that trans here is being used in a lot of ways by a lot of people and if the solution is to make more sections for more genders, then so be it. If there are more than 2 genders in society, then there are more than 2 genders in prison, so it's time to re-imagine imprisonment in a non-binary world.

Or, they get jailed alone. Does that mean more predators will say they're trans once convicted? Maybe, but at a certain point these institutions are going to have to learn to deal with these nuances. Maybe they have some non-violent offenders it's time to let out to make room for people trying to use gender issues to get an easier prison sentence.

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lilaprilshowers t1_jae3ey5 wrote

You're right that it's important to have these conversations, but there are also groups out there that don't want to have these conversations. They try to shutdown any criticism of Scotland's gender policy as, "hateful."

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[deleted] t1_jae7h1c wrote

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Cryonaut555 t1_jae9t8e wrote

Not to mention prisoners of any gender raped by guards and other staff who are usually cis

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Bee-Aromatic t1_jadt5qo wrote

But it does driven dem sweet clickz! Though, clickbate does seem a bit out of character for the BBC.

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