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Petersaber t1_j9ky1ho wrote

Reply to comment by chyko9 in Israeli West Bank raid kills 10 Palestinians and hurts more than 100 others. by CrackHeadRodeo

Because terrorist organisations are a trustworthy source, eh? No way they're just trying to score free range martyrs for the cause? The fact that multiple groups claim "ownership" should trigger a red flag or two.

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chyko9 t1_j9l1awc wrote

How else do you propose that the identity of the dead are obtained? If we can't trust what the IDF says, because they want to maximize the number of militants killed, and we can't trust Palestinian fundamentalists, because they also want to maximize the number of "martyrs" killed, then we're at an informational bottleneck here. However, I don't think the solution in the face of an over-abundance of caution on identifying the dead is just to revert to calling every single person killed in the raid a "civilian" - that is arguably more disingenuous than going off of potentially false numbers from either side.

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Petersaber t1_j9lb3xf wrote

There are third-party sources.

> that is arguably more disingenuous than going off of potentially false numbers from either side.

No. It's better than calling every casuality a "military aged male", or outright "terrorist", which shuts down any investigation.

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dogoodsilence1 t1_j9l8f44 wrote

It’s funny you take an American news source for what it’s worth lol. It’s like the 60s propaganda in the US against Civil Rights. If you knew anything about such state labeled “terrorist groups” like the naive user above mentions the Lions Den which was found in August 2022 after two individuals were killed by Israel forces. It’s called fighting back. David vs Goliath because Goliath (the fascist state) is trying to occupy land in the West Bank to build condos for Israel. Sounds very similar how many minorities were treated in the US back in the day to build highways and new subdivision through minority run communities

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Petersaber t1_j9lb26w wrote

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

My relatives were terrorists too... While they were hiding in Warsaw underground back in 1944.

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