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GoldGlitters t1_j9v5rc1 wrote

Reply to comment by flaccidcolon in Suspect arrested in 2001 killing of a pregnant soldier at a former U.S. Army base in Germany by StevenSanders90210

The leading cause of death for pregnant women in the US is homicide.

ETA: The Harvard article is misleading, turns out the #1 cause of death is suicide, followed by homicide at #2, and medical complications (you know, the thing we all assumed was the primary cause of death) is at #3. Both victim types are statistically more likely to deal with significant domestic violence at home, so it's still a major factor whether the woman decides to take her life first versus a partner doing it for them. Original study is here

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DoomSongOnRepeat t1_j9vpctq wrote

From the study cited:

>Results: Of 38,417 female victims aged 15-44 years identified in the data set, 10,411 had known pregnancy status; 1,300 of those deaths were pregnancy associated. Of all deaths with known pregnancy status, 3,203 were by homicide (30.8%) and 7,208 (69.2%) were by suicide. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36075083/

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kittyinasweater t1_j9vs2tb wrote

So the leading cause of death for pregnant women is suicide, not homicide? Equally sad imo.

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HereIGoAgain_1x10 t1_j9x1qex wrote

Wonder how much of that is baseline mental health issues vs pregnancy related hormonal/brain chemistry changes vs family/society pressure about the pregnancy and the idea that they can't live with the "shame" or whatever of being pregnant. How fucking awful of a problem to think about and attempt to solve.

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OccamsSchickQuattro t1_j9ydjfo wrote

My wife dealt with some depression during pregnancy and had to be given medication… she does not battle mental health issues at all when not pregnant. The hormonal changes make them go whack on a lot of weird things. My wife will not eat pickles ever… unless pregnant. She had to change her toothpaste for the time being.

There’s so much shit women go through in pregnancy that you cannot understand until you watch your partner go through it. And even then you only understand it on the most basic sympathetic level. You still can’t fully comprehend the idea of your brain and attitude literally changing because of a normal bodily function.

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[deleted] t1_j9vwhr1 wrote

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dragonsmilkbeer t1_j9vx51r wrote

No idea why you're so upset that your info was corrected. Kind of strange for you to get so defensive.

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GoldGlitters t1_j9vymgc wrote

Deleted my comment because I realize I don't fully know what the "1300 deaths are pregnancy related" comment is, because I added up the deaths from suicide and homicide and it landed at 10,411 without the 1,300, so the math doesn't make sense to me.

I'm irritated because you seem to be more interested in going "well actually" with no understanding that these are human beings, not just statistics. You went out of your way to prove it's "technically" incorrect and tbh, without any context on your POV it just seems like you wanted to invalidate the problem of homicide by proving that suicide is actually a worse issue

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dragonsmilkbeer t1_j9wbwhi wrote

You don't even know who you're replying to. I didn't write that comment. I think you're projecting HEAVILY onto what they said, and "these are human beings, not just statistics" is pure platitude nonsense. Grow up.

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GoldGlitters t1_j9wbza3 wrote

You’re right, you’re not the OP. You’re worse, lmao

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Knull_Gorr t1_j9wcma6 wrote

I've got no skin in this game and honestly I don't give a shit. But "you're not the OP. You're worse" is the most comically immature thing I've read in a long time.

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dragonsmilkbeer t1_j9wg7uc wrote

Telling me I'm worse at enabling you to defend misinformation is a compliment. Thank you.

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GoldGlitters t1_j9wht6h wrote

I literally corrected the article in my comment, what the hell is wrong with you

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DoomSongOnRepeat t1_j9yxcqe wrote

What you said wasn't just "technically" incorrect, it was demonstrably false.

It's not going out of one's way to read the study cited in the source you posted. That's the whole reason the study is linked, so that it can be read.

You were fine with the article using statistics when you thought it supported you, so how am I supposedly the one reducing women to statistics for simply quoting part of the study to clear up misinformation you posted?

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DemonSemenVaccine t1_j9xgr6d wrote

There have been additional studies done that stretch the time frame of starting as soon as known pregnant to a year after birth. In those studies the #1 is homicide. Women are still very vulnerable after giving birth, plus all the additional stressors. Louisiana did a study for sure, since they have a very high number of maternal/fetal mortalities.

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DoomSongOnRepeat t1_j9yue0y wrote

That's the same time frame as the linked study. There have been exactly 0 studies which point to homicide being #1. If there were, they would have been linked when it was pointed out that the study cited in this thread shows suicide as being the #1 cause by a long shot. You could search all day to find a source which supports your assertion, but all you'll find are articles that are misleading at best.

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DemonSemenVaccine t1_j9z7jel wrote

https://ldh.la.gov/page/PAMR

You can download the PAMR study at the bottom of the link. From 2017-2019 in Louisiana #1 cause was accidental overdose. Then it was homicide. I wasn't looking at articles, I was looking at actual data that the hospital reports to the state of Louisiana. I currently work and have worked in hospitals in Louisiana and closely with the state. The data from 2020-current does support the statement I made.

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DoomSongOnRepeat t1_j9z9nr6 wrote

Those reports don't support your claim either. I guess you assumed I wouldn't bother even reading the relevant sections...

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