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EconomistPunter t1_j9bzrls wrote

Short term GDP numbers mean nothing. The brain drain, the hollowing out of the middle class, and the long term disability consequences of soldiers are going to devastate Russia for decades.

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Dropped-pie t1_j9d5jzf wrote

I can’t imagine the mental health support for returning soldiers is going to be great

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EconomistPunter t1_j9d5p8o wrote

Which is why I think this is much more devastating than death. Especially for men who would be living in high mortality rural areas (or the convicts).

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ChasmDude t1_j9g2wwu wrote

> the mental health support for returning soldiers

You mean cheap vodka?

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ResponsibilityOne224 t1_j9c0a1b wrote

Yeah. How many Russian soldiers dying each day? Was it almost 1k?

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EconomistPunter t1_j9c12yg wrote

Death is an issue for the families, but disability imposes a much larger economic cost on society.

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RobinsShaman t1_j9c6kti wrote

Lost productivity of a tax payer? Lost innovation?

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EconomistPunter t1_j9c6yu3 wrote

The mental, social, and physical healthcare costs of disability are astronomical. Caregiving further depletes additional labor from the market.

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Bagellord t1_j9cm8b3 wrote

Lost productivity of not just the individual, but also the people who need to care for them who could have otherwise done other things. If someone's spouse was a school teacher or a factory worker, but now they have to stop doing that to care for their disabled spouse, that's another job that isn't being done.

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beall49 t1_j9ebbym wrote

I really hate when people downvote someone asking a question.

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KingOfSockPuppets t1_j9cjf73 wrote

Depends on when in the war you look and what's going on at the time. Currently I think they're losing around 1,000 a day as they're on an offensive push into heavily embattled areas. Their total KIA is estimated to be around 140K so far

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jschubart t1_j9d2isv wrote

I think it is averaging 500-600 per day. Over 140k Russians have died according to Ukraine. Other estimates put it at half that. Still a fuck ton either way.

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UNLEASHTHEFURY8 t1_j9ei9ib wrote

The economic destruction is reminiscent of Argentina's collapse, it will be a slow, downward spiral towards irrelevance.

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MightyH20 t1_j9ejifm wrote

One can do math on the economic impact of dead or wounded soldiers not attributing to economic activities.

  • Average employment in Russia: 60%

  • Average Russian GDP per Capita: 12.000 a year.

  • Wounded or dead Russians: 200.000

Missing out GDP (0.6 * 200.000)*12.000= $1.440.000.000 ($1.4B a year).

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Setamies46 t1_j9ey83p wrote

Don't forget those war reparations to Ukraine.

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ryencool t1_j9exqsv wrote

And the numbers contained be 100% trusted either...

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