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Wolfram_And_Hart t1_j9f0wb7 wrote

Reply to comment by GYN-k4H-Q3z-75B in Firms stick to four-day week after trial ends by blitz9999

Honest, if child care was more affording in the USA, most of us would be happy with 4x10h

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beerandblitz t1_j9f31cs wrote

These firms weren't doing 4 10s. They were working regular hours 4 days a week. Getting paid the same money for 80% of the hours.

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Wolfram_And_Hart t1_j9f5i3w wrote

Yeah… I read…

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beerandblitz t1_j9f60uf wrote

Ok my bad. I assumed this was reddit so the article wasn't read, just the headline.

But a lot of people do generally think when they say 4 day workweek that they mean 4x10s. Always want to make sure it's clear what this study is really trying for.

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lidsville76 t1_j9fe4f5 wrote

My brother is working on union contracts for his department. There is no real money for CoL raises, so he is suggesting that they move to a 4/32 work week. That effectively gives them a nice raise for the per hour workers.

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beerandblitz t1_j9femby wrote

Yeah it feels like there haven't been enough raises for CoL anywhere yet. Guess I just have to leave to get the raise I need.

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che85mor t1_j9fotin wrote

CoL raise? What is that?

My wife was just offered a job doing phone support. They told her training pay was $12.75. That hit like a brick to the face. When I started doing IT, it was phone support. Training pay was $12.50 an hour. 25 years ago.

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beerandblitz t1_j9g99cx wrote

That's just insanity. People at the top keep giving themselves bigger and bigger salaries though.

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che85mor t1_j9h2eto wrote

Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous. cApiTAliSm though right?

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mentalxkp t1_j9fj89z wrote

4x10 sucks if you have kids, and not just the daycare part. You don't really get to see them during the week. You're 5th day, they're in school. It's great for childless people. Really expands how much you can travel. But mandatory 10 hour days really wear you down.

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8-Brit t1_j9fma4e wrote

Fortunately in this trial it was 4x8 still with no pay reduction

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ScientificSkepticism t1_j9fotwi wrote

While the study was 4x8, let me just add how awesome 4x10 is with work from home.

Roll out of bed at 6:30, take a shower, put on a t-shirt and jeans, at work by 7. Maybe put on a button down if I have a client call. Start dinner at 4:00. Get it in oven, go work some. Dinner done at 5. Answer emails while hanging out with family/friends.

Goddamn I'd rather do 10 hours of work that way than 8 hours of work where I dressed up and spent 45 minutes commuting each way.

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424f42_424f42 t1_j9hyl1j wrote

No day care in my area supports a parent working a 10 hour day

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Xanthelei t1_j9frl5r wrote

I work 4x10. It's not as great as it seems from the outside. My first day off is completely lost to just recovering and catching up on the things around the house I used to do during the week after work.

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Wolfram_And_Hart t1_j9fvjdk wrote

Guess it really depends on what you do.

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Xanthelei t1_j9g6l3x wrote

I have a very physical job, yes, but I know from my college days that 10 hours of mental work is just as draining in a different way.

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Wolfram_And_Hart t1_j9gg94k wrote

In an office though 20% of your day is fuck off politics and coffee talk. I hate it but how else is the CEO going to hijack my day while I was taking a piss with his personal laptop problem?

So, for me, 4x10 gives me an incredibly productive day.

I’d much rather do 4x8 and never have to go into an office.

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Xanthelei t1_j9ggqgn wrote

Lmao the politics and small talk is the one thing I don't miss about office jobs. I'm terrible at small talk and not interested in office politics. Those were probably the two things most draining for me for the time I worked in one.

4x8 work from home is absolutely the dream though. I'd save so much money on gas with no commute, and always have snacks on hand!

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SJHillman t1_j9f38sq wrote

It's not just affordability, but also finding a daycare whose hours fit. I'd do 4x10s, but most of the day ares in the area are open for only 10 or 11 hours a day (especially since COVID), so once you add in overhead like a commute and getting your hours to align with theirs, their working hours simply don't work. Instead, I'm on a 9/80 with every other Friday off, which is the next best thing and is still a thousand times better than a traditional 5x8 schedule.

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Draxx01 t1_j9g9zgv wrote

TBH this heavily depends on both parent's schedules. We have 4x10s and a lot of ppl just swap the dropoff or pickup. There's a lot of 5-6am ppl who leave early enough for the afternoon pickup while dodging rush hour. There's also the 8-10am start crew who do the drop off and leave during or after rush hour. We're pretty flex though so some ppl also just work partially form home then drive in later. IE take some morning meetings, drive in after rush hour. Maybe even dial in while driving. A lot of ppl been doing that as it lets them convert commute to work hours and makes for way better work/life balance.

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