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008Zulu t1_jdguiv5 wrote

How long before the ask back the stuff they already sent?

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edingerc t1_jdh2fnr wrote

Dear Afghanistan, Would you please send us the AK’s we left in your country in the 70’s? I know you told us to clean up our room but I assume you just put our stuff in a box in the attic. Love, V

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truecore t1_jdgxh8f wrote

They already got it back from Belarus, probably without a refund. Lukashenko is a joke.

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Ramazoninthegrass t1_jdgvcuy wrote

They still have modern equipment, it is placed in strategic defence and border CH positions. They just have no more to use on conscripts for the meat grinder.

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sjfiuauqadfj t1_jdhnm1r wrote

given how shitty russias equipment is, maybe india will sell it back to russia so that they can buy superior equipment

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edingerc t1_jdh26ct wrote

It really sucks when your arms dealer goes and invades another country with your stock.

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centosdude t1_jdh0f5l wrote

Looks like India bet on the wrong team to supply their military needs.

Russia “is no longer a reliable weapons supplier” and Indian representatives are “coming to understand that there could be real benefits for them (in finding other markets),” the official told reporters in New York.

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdhtmy4 wrote

India is trying to be best friends with Russia. It's disgusting.

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Lumpy-Ad-2103 t1_jdi1jon wrote

I’ve heard some interesting perspectives on the whole India buying Russian oil thing. It seems to have been a strategic option to allow Russian oil to continue to get into the international supply chains (so as to not drastically impact overall supply/pricing) while also drastically reducing the amount of money that Russia makes off of it.

At this point Russia is essentially losing money on every barrel of oil it sells to India.

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdi4pd4 wrote

...While innocent Ukrainians are still dying, being tortured, raped and traumatized. Fuck that. India is wrong in this situation and should be held accountable for it or at least Ukraine's allies should cut them off from everything they need. Fuck their stance on this.

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Lumpy-Ad-2103 t1_jdl0anv wrote

This isn’t just India’s stance. It’s a loophole that was more than likely intentional.

One of the key points of this strategy is that we can’t afford for ~10 million barrels of Russian oil to leave the market without serious consequences. On top of that much of Russia’s oil would likely be shut down for years if they have to turn off production. This would result in substantial rises in energy costs, huge energy shortages in many developing countries, massive supply chain disruptions and, possibly most importantly, would likely drive a huge wedge into the coalition that is supporting Ukraine.

I don’t know if this is the best option available, but there are so many consequences to just shutting them out that I don’t think that’s the best option either.

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Aeiexgjhyoun_III t1_jdqyszx wrote

Start by cutting off the U.S for all the support they've given Saudi Arabia in their war on Yemen, or is it only western lives that matter?

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdics98 wrote

Stop lying or listening to trash propaganda from Russia

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdih023 wrote

What does being white have to do with it? Russian media is literally dictated and directed by Putin himself and with how pathetic he is as a leader, he wants all the people watching Russian media to be given talking points that make Russia always look like they're in the right and doing good things. Media should show both the good and the bad- you know FACTS. Showing facts isn't propaganda. It doesn't sway one way or the other.

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Odd-Employment2517 t1_jdjjbnc wrote

You men russian nazis? Wagner groups founder and leader has SS runes tattooed to his neck. Wagner is at least 40x larger than the Azov battalion was (1000 personnel)

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CrashB111 t1_jdjythb wrote

Suck it Ivan.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe your lies? Or do you get paid per post regardless?

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Lumpy-Ad-2103 t1_jdl05cm wrote

One of the key points of this strategy is that we can’t afford for ~10 million barrels of Russian oil to leave the market without serious consequences. On top of that much of Russia’s oil would likely be shut down for years if they have to turn off production. This would result in substantial rises in energy costs, huge energy shortages in many developing countries, massive supply chain disruptions and, possibly most importantly, would likely drive a huge wedge into the coalition that is supporting Ukraine.

I don’t know if this is the best option available, but there are so many consequences to just shutting them out that I don’t think that’s the best option either.

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imtourist t1_jdlajmw wrote

This might sound unpopular to a lot of people however it is the right thing to do. Having that much oil go offline for years would be a major economic shock to the world and would actually endanger ongoing military and humanitarian support for Ukraine.

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_neutral_person t1_jdigf0m wrote

The oil pipelines from Russian to India can only send but so much oil. India and Russia could improve the infrastructure to allow for more oil sales but it would cost money, time, and india would have to start right now because Russia could collapse before it is built making it useless.

India is trying to become a world power. They see removing the USA as the world dominate power as key to achieving this goal. Supporting Russia is part of the plan as any nation in BRICS in theory should be doing. At the same time the consequences of such action should be realized as well.

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watcherofworld t1_jdiq5nd wrote

>They see removing the USA as the world dominate power as key to achieving this goal.

Absolute Reddit moment.

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CrashB111 t1_jdl4cvb wrote

Especially cause India definitely hates China more than they'd have any desire to "replace" the US.

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Red_Meridian t1_jdkz37z wrote

Hate to tell you, but “BRICS” are not an alliance, it was created by Goldman Sacs as a developing market ETF.

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Zonel t1_jdkbwwn wrote

There isnt a pipeline russia to india. The oil goes by tanker ships.

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Lumpy-Ad-2103 t1_jdl13nb wrote

The majority of new oil imports to India are actually going by tanker from the Baltic ports. This is all of the oil from West of the Ural Mountains. That is the oil that lost its European markets and had to find a new buyer.

India has no interest in “removing” the US as a dominant power. India is part of “The Quad” and their geopolitical goals seem to be fairly aligned with US interests in south east Asia/south China sea.

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imtourist t1_jdlazqd wrote

First of all the decision by India to buy Russian oil is mainly economic although it is tacitly approved by the US and the rest of the west. There is an independent undercurrent here though and that is to drive wedges like this in the world order in order highlight the importance of India. The country's collective self-esteem is partially driven by what was in the rear view mirror but now more so to better industrialize and gain respect (e.g. a seat on the security council).

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MeatsimPD t1_jdid1ft wrote

India tries to stand apart from all the major powers/blocs: US, Russia, EU, and especially China. It doesn't want to be best friends with any of them nor enemies, even regarding it's territorial disputes with China is pretty passive.

"Non-alignment" has been India's foreign policy strategy for decades

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ogipogo t1_jdijxln wrote

They're playing both sides so they always come out on top. 🙄

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SuperstitiousPigeon5 t1_jdipr18 wrote

In some cases the victor remembers those who ride the fence.

Azrael : No, I was an ARTIST, STUPID! I WAS INSPIRATION! A muse has no place in battle!

Serendipity : So after the fallen were banished to hell, God turned on those who wouldn't fight, and Azrael was sent down with the demons.

[mockingly]

Serendipity : Something he considers a GRAVE injustice!

Azrael : Ah, come on! Don't tell me you NEVER questioned the judgement, Serendipity.

Serendipity : No. It never bothered me. So you were an artist! Big deal! Elvis was an artist. But that didn't stop him from joining the service in time of war. And that's why he's The King, and you're a schmuck.

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdiegq0 wrote

Is that why they still have a caste system?

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Rayden-Darkus t1_jdiie7l wrote

What the fuck does caste system has to do with anything ?

r/PeakWest material right here

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Out_and_about_home t1_jdit23s wrote

Remember the genocide in Bangladesh which was supported by U.S. and when India tried to stop it then U.S. threatened to declare war on India but Russia supported India in liberation of Bangladesh? U.S. may forget but India certainly remembers its allies during crisis.

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Out_and_about_home t1_jdpnejx wrote

Funny you say this but no step was taken by anyone to actively stop this genocide. All they care about is placing nukes in Ukraine to deter Russia. Let's not try to act like any one has a moral high ground here.

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proud_NJITstudent t1_jdl6b9w wrote

Yeah that’s why US and Europe buy their oil from Saudi Arabia where they’ve been slaughtering people in Yemen for years. Only because brown lives are seen as less important.

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Aeiexgjhyoun_III t1_jdqz9ur wrote

Yes it's bad. Let's start with the genocide of Yemenis by Saudi Arabia which the U.S is supporting.

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Spetznazx t1_jdie0vp wrote

India isn't dumb, they didn't put all their eggs in one basket.

They have American and Russian military tech

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Odd-Employment2517 t1_jdjjpr7 wrote

While Pakistan was actually smart and went all in on US tech, probably why the Pak Air Force has exclusively seal clubbed the Indian Air Force in every war

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proud_NJITstudent t1_jdl637t wrote

US didn’t offer it to India, they chose to ally with Pakistan to counter Soviet influence in Afghanistan. At the end of the day India won all its wars with Pakistan so Pakistan isn’t much of a threat no matter whose weapons they have.

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdifgww wrote

Glad they got Russian tech

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Spetznazx t1_jdihs9u wrote

Why? We're not fighting India, and them having Russian tech makes them weaker against Pakistan.

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdimc41 wrote

Fine by me. They're not supporting Ukraine and by purchasing Russian goods are actually against Ukraine. Why's it a big deal if Pakistan can fight against India...it's almost like you have a double standard. If people were selling weapons to Pakistan, would that be a problem?

Edit: anyone who doesn't get the meaning behind most of MY comments aren't paying attention or are Russian/Indian apologists/sympathizers

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Spetznazx t1_jdimnsh wrote

Yes since Pakistan is a huge supplier of local terrorist groups.....

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdimtkd wrote

To India, correct? As you just said, were not fighting them so what's the problem? Do you understand the double standard yet?

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Spetznazx t1_jdindt8 wrote

No not just to India.

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howsyourdayoff t1_jdinkb7 wrote

Russia are terrorist invading Ukraine, Syria and threatening nuclear war. What's Pakistan compared to them?

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Spetznazx t1_jdinw2v wrote

Look if you can't understand the geopolitical environment of more than just Ukraine than that's on you. Yes India taking a more neutral route in the war sucks, there is still a lot more going on outside that.

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proud_NJITstudent t1_jdl5tyy wrote

Well no, not just India. They also train and harbor terrorists like Osama bin Laden who fly planes into your buildings.

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bilbo_swagginz_boi t1_jdqpwaz wrote

Never got past the friendship with the USSR. It’ll come to bite them in the end by trying to either alienating or being outright enemies with:

  • The West (aside from maybe France)
  • China
  • Pakistan

With Russia/Japan/UAE/Bangladesh as friendlies.

Russia is currently engaging in genocide and can’t afford to help india out aside from selling dirt cheap oil. The more they cozy to russia the less the West would see them as a friend.

China is already at odds with India with no signs of stopping.

The West has a ton of resources and military strength. It’d be foolish not to expand those ties. Nixon hasn’t been president in 50 years. But instead we’re seeing India obsess over being it’s own superpower.

Japan I doubt can supply them much militarily, probably mostly economic assistance. Even then Japan has a demographic crisis with aging population:

Bangladesh is not developed enough to be a lucrative neighbor yet.

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nickyeyez t1_jdh8xxt wrote

I don't know what is up with Russia. It's just not LIKE them to reneg on a deal...

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madumi-mike t1_jdibotx wrote

MFers can’t make bullets for themselves, how is India still “buying” from them?

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JoJo-Bizarre-1997 t1_jdhq69j wrote

Cheap oil does not bring weapons. Especially when your favourite ally is now a puppet of your most hated enemy.

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LovesFrenchLove_More t1_jdh5ukg wrote

I‘m sure India will get lots of free or cheap gas and oil instead.

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campbrs t1_jdhxlrl wrote

And at this point never will

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SoBadit_Hurts t1_jdhyth7 wrote

That is the worst camouflage I’ve ever seen.

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Mjfoster0825 t1_jdhytlc wrote

The thumbnail looks like the funnest missile ever

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KnightFox t1_jdiygpq wrote

India is spending enough on arms to build a domestic arms industry for most of their arms sales, and could develop full domestic capacity in the next 30 years but they don't seem to want to make the investment.

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getBusyChild t1_jdk4ix4 wrote

That idea went out the window almost a decade ago when they realized that they not only did not have the tooling, nor the heavy industry. But also the brains needed to start, and back such programs. The people that would have helped usually leave for the US, or Europe after getting their degrees. Or more likely stayed in those places after getting said degrees. it also doesn't help that they are having to increasingly pay to upkeep their older weapons, models. Mainly ships etc. So the domestic arms industry has been pushed back as a result.

But the Government did built plenty of temples etc. So there's that.

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jschubart t1_jdkfi5t wrote

Getting high off their own supply.

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MightyH20 t1_jdlnofu wrote

Karma, albeit an imaginary concept in the west it is a very "real" concept in the east. This is what karma tastes like.

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internet_chump t1_jdlqyk3 wrote

Oh no! But what about ThE mUsLiMs ??- Narendra Modi, probably

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WirelessBCupSupport t1_jdp12jt wrote

I think India needs to be sent a message: no more H1/technical Visas to countries that back the Ukraine. And tech companies need to outsource phone support to Malaysia, Phillipines, elsewhere. Hurt their wallet. Oh, and Apple, no, you backed the wrong horse again, for making iPhones.

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Riptide360 t1_jdgwb0g wrote

Russia owns’s nearly 1/2 of India’s BrahMos. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/india-russia-defence-firm-eyes-200-mln-missile-deal-with-indonesia-2023-03-15/

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vaasu_annan t1_jdhb1qr wrote

India owns the other half. BrahMos is a joint venture between India and Russia.

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RedneckLiberace t1_jdhiy46 wrote

Pray Putin doesn't resort to using nuclear weapons because they're the only weapons Russia has left.

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christophlieber t1_jdi6qia wrote

he obviously won‘t.
because if it would even be an option for him, he‘d already have made use of them.

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RedneckLiberace t1_jdipgnb wrote

I wish “he obviously won't” was right. Putin's already hinted he may use nuclear weapons. Saying he would have used nukes already isn't proof he wouldn't use them.

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Odd-Employment2517 t1_jdjk5pg wrote

If he does the war is global everyone vs Russia instantly and the likelihood of US and China surviving vs Russia being a distant memory in that scenario is very high

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