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deftoner42 t1_jawdibb wrote

Reply to comment by Karenomegas in Genevieve Lhermitte: Belgian mother who killed her five children euthanised by Quirkie

So like the equivalent of 'suicide by cop' only on a state level. In this case, I feel like life in prison would be a more fitting punishment.

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ekanite t1_jawetxs wrote

And what would punishment accomplish exactly? Do you expect someone this far gone to "learn their lesson" and atone in some way inside an expensive tax-funded prison cell? Or is this just a way for you to satisfy your craving for further human suffering, or is it just a justice boner?

Either way, comments like this serve no purpose. Let the bitch die and move on.

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hiimsubclavian t1_jayggrv wrote

No such thing as too far gone. Bible tells you god is patient and does not wish anyone to perish. Buddhism tell you the only thing you have to do is to put down the butcher knife.

Even the vilest of murderers can find redemption if they're willing to change. No one is beyond saving.

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ekanite t1_jazaz3s wrote

I would love to believe this too. And that we're all born equal and have good inside of us. But no, some humans are broken beyond repair. Just not meant for this world.

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Big_D_Cyrus t1_jawxwp9 wrote

I expect punishment for murderers.

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ekanite t1_jax5rld wrote

And this solves what exactly?

Remove the problem, save tax dollars, move on with life. If you want some sadistic revenge fulfilment do it on your own time.

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Big_D_Cyrus t1_jax8eso wrote

Life in prison is the punishment. Not cruel not unusual. You give sympathy to the murderer but not the victims. That is sick and perverted

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Coomb t1_jaxe1xz wrote

Hey dude, by definition murder victims can't suffer or take some kind of perverse glee in watching their killers suffer. The only people who benefit from watching killers suffer are people like you who like to watch people suffer as long as you think they deserve it.

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Holmesee t1_jaxeflm wrote

I don’t want to pay for a punishment system I want to pay for a reform system. Otherwise what’s the point. A system based on revenge would be so problematic.

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AnAutisticGuy t1_jax3rvf wrote

That’s not supposed to be the point of the justice system. Also. Just because you want something, that doesn’t mean you get it.

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Big_D_Cyrus t1_jax89ak wrote

It is part of it. That's how victims and society heal

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AnAutisticGuy t1_jaxcs7h wrote

No seriously it really isn’t a part of the justice system and it doesn’t help victims heal. Sometimes the perpetrator isn’t alive after the event and yet the victim heals anyway.

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cdotterhamilton t1_jaymv2o wrote

People in Hell want ice water. Doesn’t mean they get it.

Despite belief, languishing in a jail cell does not bring a single person back. If they’re sick and want out, let them the fuck out.

It’s no skin off your teeth.

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The-Fumbler t1_jb0z861 wrote

Prisons are full in Belgium, it’s an actual problem.

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Highly-uneducated t1_jawk1yd wrote

you know if European countries really want to punish a shitty inmate, American privately owned prisons could take them for a fee, and the European inmate could expirience the alien life of race politics, where their lives are controlled by extremely violent gangs, and the guards are allowed to shoot them if they step in he wrong area, and are only concerned with keeping order and not anyone's safety. instead of getting euthanized, I'd like to see the look on this bitches face when she was told what a no hands policy is.

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Chiggadup t1_jb7nleg wrote

You know Belgium is basically the European cocaine import capitol, right?

I imagine prison isn’t exactly fun there with the various drug cartels interned.

What version of europe is your sentiment operating off of?

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Highly-uneducated t1_jb7pq5u wrote

Sweden and Denmark. I can't find statistic on Belgium's prison violence or gangs, is it comparable to the US?

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Chiggadup t1_jb83hgt wrote

I have heard about Belgium and its ports being important for cocaine and other drugs.

I’ve heard MUCH more about the Netherlands and their recent cartel issues with the murders of journalists and lawyers, which are fascinating if you’re into that type of news.

https://unherd.com/2022/03/how-the-netherlands-became-a-narco-state/

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Highly-uneducated t1_jb8b2fm wrote

I am, thanks. to the original point though, I would be shocked if any western European country had similar prison gang culture and violence to the US, and would be very curious to learn about it. it's interesting, because you have gangs in prison that pretty much only exist there. you could be in a biker gang, fighting another biker gang, but then in prison, you'll answer to the Arian brotherhood, while the rival gang answers to the skin heads. there will be an uneasy truce between those gangs, so you can't fight your rival, and then have to fight one cartel connected gang while you're allies with another. that's where the no hands policy comes in. if you decide you're mad at that rival biker gang, you're not allowed to fight because they don't want to risk a gang war that will give an advantage to the black gangs or the rival cartels, so they'll make you go into a cell with your rival where 2 knives will be waiting. do you know if this dynamic happens in Belgium or other European prisons?

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