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pegothejerk t1_jbgnupz wrote

Someone’s failed the students many times before it got to this. Likely multiple someone’s, at school and at home. Yes, stuff is complex, yes, everyone is so busy it’s hard to be there to parent, yes we use schools as baby sitting, and yes, teachers have their hands tied by ridiculous rules and fears. Those things don’t mean we aren’t failing them, and it doesn’t mean we stop trying to figure out how to make it better. I’d personally like to start by paying teachers more to attract better trained teachers, I’d appreciate it if extremists would stop using schools to shape the communities in their image, and I’d appreciate it if we had higher standards for administrators along with holding them accountable in ways other than how much they spend and what test scores look like.

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spqrnbb t1_jbgrxmd wrote

I'd appreciate it if the parents raised their kids to respect authority.

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Pickle_Slinger t1_jbgtbx5 wrote

Unfortunately the parents are part of the problem. The article states that this started when a mother and her child came to the school targeting a student. Parents shouldn’t be getting involved in children’s disputes.

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Mparker15 t1_jbgy472 wrote

Respect for authority is kind of a loaded term and not always a good thing. It's better to learn just to respect people as people

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level_17_paladin t1_jbheknr wrote

Did you see how adults responded to vaccines and mask mandates when guidelines were issued by the CDC?

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seafloof t1_jbhv6a3 wrote

It’s not even about teaching kids to respect authority; it’s about teaching respect for other PEOPLE.

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pegothejerk t1_jbgsnex wrote

I’d appreciate it if authority today had done their jobs without corruption and bigotry so they’d be worth respecting. No one should blindly respect a title. That’s how you get “just following orders” type problems.

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oxslashxo t1_jbgxi9w wrote

Hard to do when half the country is on shit jobs with inconsistent schedules and have no shot at properly raising a child.

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inab1gcountry t1_jbhbcid wrote

It’s fun to think that. But at the same time, I bet most of the students arrested can name one elected official in their entire state. Imagine thinking that trying to bite a cop is a smart play.

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SmokeyBare t1_jbgqjtw wrote

School employees aren't paid enough and are ridiculed by parents and media when they try to intervene. Parents are overworked and can hardly afford groceries and rent these days. So, we have a generation that basically nobody cares about, empowered with technology we can hardly grasp. It's all a recipe for kids who don't respect teachers, parents, or society. Our priorities are shit, so we get shitty kids.

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Nearsighted_Beholder t1_jbk8km9 wrote

Not only are they not paid enough, but administrators flat out refuse all disciplinary accountability, even going so far as to countermand teachers when they ask disruptive students to leave or be quiet.

I watched it happen in real-time throughout my career. A student would assault another student (sometimes we are talking felony level assault), they would get taken out of the classroom and the perp would return to the classroom before the victim (who could be out for hours or even days).

Visit any teaching subreddit or online community. It's the same across the board. Administrators are enabling a death spiral in academia.

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statslady23 t1_jbjczy6 wrote

There aren't enough teachers or good intentions in the world to fix all the kids coming up with serious behavior problems. You have no idea how bad it has gotten.

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LindaBelchersLaugh t1_jbh3krt wrote

I had an abortion because I knew I wouldn't be a good parent. YOU'RE WELCOME, AMERICA. Trophies, medals, and monetary awards may be sent to my agent.

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HydroCorndog t1_jbh9flp wrote

Me too, while in college. Afterwards I went on to raise 2 valedictorians. In college I was drinking every night and addicted to painkillers. It was immoral to have a child and I am relieved I didn't have to. Children deserve better.

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LindaBelchersLaugh t1_jblm3a1 wrote

This is the true meaning of PRO-CHOICE. I support every person who wants to have children IF and WHEN they want to! And I support families having all the resources they need to have the necessary AFFORDABLE medical care, affordable housing, food, and schooling for their kids. If a woman is pregnant and wants to keep the baby, I support her right to choose by ensuring she has access to medical care and all the financial support she needs so she doesn't HAVE to worry about "how can I afford it?" That's TRUE pro-choice.

And if someone (like me) knows that there is no way they can responsibly bring a baby into the world, safe access to abortion MUST be an available right. I'll always fight for the right to CHOOSE.

Congrats on your kids, be proud!

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cgtdream t1_jbh1fl0 wrote

More like the whole state failed them. But that's a topic for another day.

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Chiggadup t1_jbgtz88 wrote

I’m working for a school district at the curriculum level, you wouldn’t believe how many of our “outraged that this is being taught” calls come from parents or grandparents who send their children to private school….

Edit: To be clear, all taxpayers have a right to know how schools operate in their community, but it also speaks to your point.

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langis_on t1_jbgzrbe wrote

Pretty much everyone protesting at my local BoE either doesn't have kids or sends their kids to private school.

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