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kikistiel t1_jdx70n1 wrote

Reply to comment by drkgodess in Woman framed in ‘rape fantasy’ plot speaks out after conviction of ex-U.S. Marshal by drkgodess

All this over a condo dispute? And the wife went along with it? Jeez, some people are genuinely terrible. She spent 88 days in prison because her ex and his new wife wanted to keep their condo. That's awful.

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asdaaaaaaaa t1_jdx9dvn wrote

People get nasty over money/investments. I had a friend in jail for 12 months, he was doing a in-jail rehab program. You know which addiction was the hardest to kick there, and the one they generally had the least success in? Dealing/money, not even a drug. Apparently they got more than twice the amount of people successfully rehabbed (Well, not returning to jail) on drugs compared to dealers.

I don't know, the worst stuff I've witnessed has always been over money. It grabs certain people for whatever reason, more so than many other things.

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Dolly_gale t1_jdxodzw wrote

I used to live in an area famous for its legal casinos. The stories about gambling addictions are heart-breaking. It's a joke on the relationship advice subreddit that commenters quickly suggest "you should break up." But after hearing about how half a married couple can unilaterally damage both spouses' finances, I'd quickly suggest "legal divorce" if one spouse has a gambling addiction.

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B0rf_ t1_jdy34bh wrote

I sometimes (like once or twice a month) go to the local Hard Rock (only casino around here that's not some shitty, little room) and I'll always see the same people at the same slot machines mindlessly pressing the button. It's depressing seeing them blow $1000+ then go and get another withdrawal from the ATM

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FtheMustard t1_jdzwcnn wrote

The lady that used to clean my mom's house was also a blackjack dealer in a Pennsylvania casino (Parx). She told me that she would do an 8 hr shift, go home for the night, come back the next day and do another 8 hr shift with the same people at the table. She said the casino's profits were almost entirely driven by addicted gamblers.

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B0rf_ t1_je01ubx wrote

Yeah it makes me pretty sad. I also worked at a liquor store and people blew money there too like no tomorrow. Like we had a dude who would hit whippits and had jaundice but felt the need to buy cheese serving boards (like the fake granite ones without actual cheese) and booze instead of food. He pulled out a wad of ones and had like 10 whippits fall out one time. Said it was his last few bucks so I refused to sell him anything and told him I would check him out if he got food.

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shampoo_mohawk_ t1_je0769w wrote

Why the cheese boards though?

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B0rf_ t1_je085n9 wrote

Because he was high as fuck and thought it would be better to spend his money on that and booze instead of food.

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shampoo_mohawk_ t1_je0a1w7 wrote

Oh, I wondered if maybe there was some strange use for an empty cheese board that I had never heard of. This is much sadder than that.

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bluemitersaw t1_je052li wrote

I've been to Vegas twice in my life and one moment on the casino for stood out.

My wife and I were just doing some slots for a bit and a lady behind us (who seemed like a regular) hit a jackpot. Lights and sirens were going off and a floor worker had to come over and do something to finalize it. The whole time she just sat there, hardly any reaction. The worker congratulated her and moved on. Then without skipping a beat she just went back to playing the slot machine like nothing happened.

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whilst t1_jdyji7e wrote

Money isn't money, it's permission to live in a different social class, which is extremely exclusive and pushes down hard on everyone around them to keep them out. Life's better, you have access to more resources, the people around you help you more, you're safer and more comfortable.

People who were born into it, or who were born with the resources, drive, and good advice to luck into it, feel like that life is just how the world works. Imagine being permanently outside the palace gates and desperate, but there's one thing you can do that lets you in.

How willing would you be to give up the only thing that gave you the life the people around you just lucked into? How willing would you be to give up dealing if it meant giving up having a nice home and physical and mental safety?

Rather than treating doing desperate things to make money as an addiction, we should be treating the problem of desperation. But we as a society are mostly unwilling to do that.

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shampoo_mohawk_ t1_je08ndx wrote

I feel this so deep in my soul. The money-hoarding dragons protecting their piles of treasure that could buy healthcare, housing, social services, environmental protection, etc for everyone else are ruining everything.

After a person makes $100 million that should be the end of it. Like ok, you get some kind of award or trophy announcing you’ve won at life. Any wealth you’ve “made” over $100 million needs to go back to making the world better for everyone else. (I say “made” because one single person cannot make that much money alone. They obviously exploited the work or comfort of other humans in one way or another to get where they are.)

TAX THE ULTRA-WEALTHY NOW.

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Fabulous-Ad6844 t1_jdztnl5 wrote

Totally agree. In a society with good safety nets there is less desperation, more happiness, less crime, less hostility.

I noticed this when I moved from Australia to the US. I feel the boot on my neck in the US.

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isadog420 t1_jdz1pgt wrote

Very insightful. We’re either going to sink or swim together. Time for selfish people to gain foresight.

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juddsdoit t1_je3uoxv wrote

I thought what you wrote was very insightful. But I do think that gambling addiction like any addiction is more about numbing out at some point than money. But I also am not an expert.

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oldjack t1_jdy9f0v wrote

Ehhh I'm not willing to stretch the meaning of "addiction" that far. People that do crimes to make money are not "addicted" to money. The husband and wife in this story aren't money addicts, they're just selfish/greedy/shitty people that are willing to hurt others in order to benefit themselves.

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Yoloswaggit420 t1_jdywhr2 wrote

Facts ain't no drug dealers out here sucking dick for a dollar I can tell you that

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tokes_4_DE t1_je16hqc wrote

Well why would they suck dick for a dollar if they can sell drugs for much more instead? If youre "addicted" to money youre not taking the route thats the least profitable.....

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terminalzero t1_je0p0kr wrote

> Apparently they got more than twice the amount of people successfully rehabbed (Well, not returning to jail) on drugs compared to dealers.

it doesn't help that it's really fucking hard to get hired as a convict and dealers are leaving prison with a skillset they know they can make money with

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Icy_Comfort8161 t1_jdxfo9g wrote

I suspect that the condo was just the flashpoint, and that Diaz was a "cluster B" personality type (narcissist, psychopath), manipulative, exploitative, entitled, sadistic, and lacking empathy. Narcissists see other people as "things" that are relevant only insofar as they are useful to them. When a narcissist loses their their narcissistic "supply" (which can be almost anything, e.g., a spouse, girlfriend, etc.), it can cause narcissistic injury and cause the narcissist to see their ex as the enemy and cause them to want to destroy them. A disturbing strategy is to try to destroy them personally, professionally, and financially, and drive them into a pit of despair so that they kill themselves. If the narc succeeds, it makes them feel important. In their minds they think "I was so important to this person that they couldn't go on living without me." They're highly disordered people that manipulate and exploit people. It's good to see one get caught.

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Mississimia t1_jdyjzse wrote

I had an ex with BPD who falsified a bunch of abuse allegations against the mother of his kid to get sole custody.

He honestly thought the ends justified the means, he decided she was just a bad person and that she deserved anything bad that he could do to her.

Makes me sick and also makes me more than a little worried the cops may still show up at my door one day. Wish I had never even met him.

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jereman75 t1_jdypa4e wrote

This is a lot like my ex wife. When I met her she was recently divorced and told me about how abusive he was, raped her, etc. I didn’t pick up on the narcissism because I honestly thought her ex husband was an abusive asshole. She tried to plan some insane things to get back at him and I just thought it was because he was so terrible and had gotten away with crimes. I felt she was justified. Fortunately I never got involved with any of her schemes. Fast forward to me divorcing her years later and she starts accusing me of things I never did. Crazy things, not just exaggerations. She also probably has a BPD diagnosis but won’t admit it. I’m glad to be divorced from her but I’m still a bit fucked up from it all.

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Mississimia t1_jdyve2b wrote

Happy cake day and sorry about your shirty ex wife.

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jereman75 t1_jdywoqd wrote

Thanks. What you described is so similar. A lot of the motivation was for custody of a child. She thought the ends justified the means no matter what she did.

I guess I commented because it may not just be money that was the motivation for that psycho. People like that have such fragile egos and such little empathy that they feel justified doing whatever they want.

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Rooboy66 t1_je12ltd wrote

You just described my ex wife and then, 5 years later, my ex girlfriend of 3 yrs. Thankfully (and surprisingly) after a truckload of therapy, I am now with a wonderful, warm and generous person.

Btw I have two psych degrees (so shit can happen to anyone, regardless of how insulated from pathology one might feel because of relevant education)

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throwaway661375735 t1_jdzky09 wrote

Too bad they don't do psychological personality tests to join the police force. Maybe if they did the test that a certain Slavic country did, they could root out the bad actors quicker. The test, give someone acid and a gun, then watch them react under pressure.

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tdasnowman t1_jdy2xn6 wrote

How far did the wife go? The article isn’t clear. Like was she actually having sex with these men? They say they staged a sexual assault I’m assuming a rape kit was processed.

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The-good-twin t1_jdygzzr wrote

I dont think anyone ever actually showed up. They just filed a false report.

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tdasnowman t1_jdyhpnp wrote

> Starting in May 2016, Diaz and his wife created multiple online accounts using his ex-girlfriend’s names and phrases associated with her, according to the indictment. They then used the accounts to communicate with men found through Craigslist “personal” ads and entice them to come to their Anaheim home to engage in a “rape fantasy” with the then-wife, according to the indictment.

I mean this could go multiple ways.

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JohnnyFreakingDanger t1_je0cmer wrote

I’ve been trying to figure this shit out for like a week. Every report is ambiguous.

I’m fairly certain the Marshall and his new wife were into kink stuff or swingers, and she fucked the guys. I don’t think the idea woulda occurred to them otherwise.

I haven’t seen anything mentioning the Craigslist guys. I can’t imagine getting roped into this stupid bullshit.

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couple4hire t1_jdye3gu wrote

don't underestimate what fight over money/property make people do

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tedfundy t1_jdz0ff6 wrote

My grandma didn’t talk to her sister for over fifty years over a land dispute.

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