Submitted by StevenSanders90210 t3_1258g9f in news
avelak t1_je3qe39 wrote
Reply to comment by Novel-Jackfruit-369 in US opens investigation into Tesla seat belts coming loose by StevenSanders90210
They typically rank near the very bottom in major build quality and reliability surveys (consumer reports, JD Power), but you can keep being a fanboy if you'd like. To their credit, they have moved up a few spots from dead last in the last couple of years!
https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehicle-dependability-studyvds
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avelak t1_je5eyov wrote
Lol name calling? I guess I've found another person who loves Tesla.
Also, there's a difference between "everyone has recalls" (which is true and expected) and "everyone is at the same level of build quality as Tesla" (which is not true).
Tesla is consistently rated near the bottom of all major automotive manufacturers for build quality. For what it's worth, there are several other brands I probably wouldn't ever consider buying either due to the same reliability/consistency issues (like Ford).
vajeen t1_je5r11c wrote
Some things just aren't worth arguing about. Shitty Teslas is probably one of them.
But, hey, if y'all are enjoying the pissing contest, go for it. đż
TbonerT t1_je5fgap wrote
Yeah, name calling. The first thing you did was declare them a fanboy for pointing out that the other major manufacturers have the same problems. This isnât about Tesla. Stop being an asshole.
avelak t1_je5fscy wrote
The very first thing I did was reiterate the point that Tesla is near the bottom of quality rankings, like I originally stated, and then followed up by indicating that the person I was responding to was likely blinded by fandom.
It's really not being an asshole
TbonerT t1_je5hzer wrote
We can all see that you couldnât get through a single sentence before calling someone with information you didnât like a âfanboyâ and you continue to attack them. Thatâs what assholes do.
avelak t1_je5imea wrote
When did I continue to attack them? All I did was provide support for my initial assertions...
If anything, you're being far more aggressive than I was when I called him a "fanboy". In fact, you've completely departed from the initial discussion and brought nothing to the table about the original points made. Maybe you should take a long look in the mirror before you just start calling random people who don't like your favorite car company assholes.
Novel-Jackfruit-369 t1_je3ujg6 wrote
Surveys like these are another story, they are inherently subjective. For ex JD power includes things like infotainment tech. Yet, they still fall within the ranks of the established players in the industry. Same with the number of lemons.
It's an objective fact that established players have these same issues, so it's easy to spot an inaccurate characterization as extreme as 'no where near' and 'fuck ton'. Which looks more like you're a tesla hate boy, as I'm not saying they are better than anyone. If I was ide pull something irrelevant out like they still have a higher profit margin so they aren't having a problem selling these cars with poor surveys and quality issues.
SipthatTing t1_je46mw7 wrote
You know no matter how hard you simp for Elon hes not going to bang you right?
ScoobyDoNot t1_je4fg2k wrote
Depends where that's a fan boy or fan girl that you're replying to.
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Cougardoodle t1_je4twyh wrote
Musk has 11 kids from 10 moms, he's already on the fastest possible route to impregnate that dude.
SipthatTing t1_je4wgip wrote
I sware all of his kids were IVF
cinderparty t1_jebx9y1 wrote
All but the first one, who died from SIDS, were conceived via ivf, yes.
Novel-Jackfruit-369 t1_je4wlcg wrote
Gross, not thag ass hole. Why do you fantasize about Elon banging people
WTFisSHAME t1_je432gr wrote
We found Elon's alt account.
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CodingLazily t1_je4vxiq wrote
Calling a survey "inherently subjective" is a bold accusation when your own argument is founded entirely on informal personal observation and anecdote, which is far less rigorous than even a survey.
Novel-Jackfruit-369 t1_je4x01u wrote
>informal personal observation
False. Actual recalls for the other automakers is not anecdote.
CodingLazily t1_je52zse wrote
No, but your experience with a Google search is anecdote. If you don't trust survey data, and I don't blame you for that, then find something that's actually better.
Novel-Jackfruit-369 t1_je55u8j wrote
Well for one, at least a quick Google search is a step above the OC that just made claims with zero data to back it up. And I don't agree that's it anecdote, but that's my opinion.
How about this?. It shows conflict with how survey reports can used to back up claims.
But keep in mind, I'm not trying to write a dissertation to refute the original claims.
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