Interesting. Dude renounced his US citizenship and became Chinese. Much like Lee Harvey Oswald did with the Soviets, before he came crawling back begging for forgiveness.

What do you charge him with I wonder?

Normally, it would be Tax Evasion. Running a company overseas but not giving the US their owed taxes, see Paul Manafort. But this dude seemingly disowned the USA and rebuked his citizenship. So is it Tax Evasion still?

Even if you revoke your citizenship, I think you still have to pay US taxes for 10 years.

This looks shady. Probably the government will charge him for spying. Can any former soldier change his nationality to the one of a country his original country is not at war with? I would expect so. Prosecuting former citizens living abroad sounds bad. Even if it's China or any other "adversary". It's what you would expect those other countries to do

Ahhh, that’s it then. Tax evasion.

#And now I’m perma banned, lol. See you guys in another life I guess.

It takes time to un-sink those claws.

If he was a Harrier pilot, as the article says, he most likely had a clearance and was privy to classified information. Whatever he knew, China certainly knows. I'd guess it has something to do with that.

I love how America demands your money even after you literally cancel your representation and leave.

Their like the fucking hotel California, once they have you, you can never leave.

And deeply ironic for a country that went to war over taxation with no representation.

i mean, americans who went to syria and joined isis have been arrested and charged too and i think most people are okay with that lol

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you can only renounce your citizenship after you have paid off any taxes owed. just cause you renounced don’t mean the government recognizes that you did of you still owed uncle sam his cut.

They demand taxes from all expats even if they’re already paying taxes to their host country. I’m below that income threshold but still have to report my earnings, which is a pain in the ass since all the “free” file options won’t let me file for free. “Please pay with US credit card that has US billing address and US phone number.” I have no US credit card, no US address, and no US phone number so fuck them and fuck the IRS. I pay taxes to my host country that actually puts my tax money back into social services I need.

yeaj but they didnt renounce their citizenships etc

also whatever tech is in the Harrier the chinese literally do not care about

the plane was around before the moon flight... also ask yourself why the british dont fly it any more and the us is on a phase out

citizen or no citizen you can still break laws and be charged for it

I would imagine there is official procedures to renouncing one's citizenship.

You can't just declare it like Michael Scott declares bankruptcy.

Something something Puerto Rico and DC.

As far as I know, Uncle Sam is the only country in the world that does that to its citizens living/working in foreign lands.

I don't think he became Chinese, an Australian article said he was an Australian citizen now and that our treaty with the USA allows us to extradite our citizens to the USA if they ask for them.

It’s time we vote to end that

You are citing a case I explicitly left out.

just look at julian assanage to know that's true.

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It seems kind of bonkers to allow former military officers to renounce their citizenship and work in a sensitive industry in a hostile country. OTOH, maybe nobody ever imagined this level of shenanigans.

Related, it’s pretty common for former service members to take related employment in the private sector. I’m guessing this guy seriously burned some bridges stateside to end up in China.

I read that the US actually did have the kind of representation they complained about not having, the irony thickens?

>Details of the US arrest warrant and the charges he faces are sealed.

Turns out if you are the US government, you can get away with anything. Arrested and charges aren't revealed.

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Not much in the way of taxes either. That slogan came out about 70 years after the war of independence.

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It’s like you can’t avoid repaying your loan by closing your account with the bank. You still owe the money.

There is a lot more to unpack with this dude. If you renounce your US citizenship you lose military benefits, he was vet.

Is one under a moral obligation to pay taxes to a country to which they don't plan to return?

I would say no.

They're*

And yes, what little tax is required in the US is REQUIRED.

No other developed country collects taxes from people who don't live in the country, let alone from non citizens.

Your argument is like saying Britian should be able to tax all Americans because they were once a colony of Britain. Thinking there was a war over that shit.. something about no tax without representation...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation

>The phrase had been used for more than a generation in Ireland.[8][9] By 1765, the term was in use in Boston, and local politician James Otis was most famously associated with the phrase, "taxation without representation is tyranny."[10] In the course of the Revolutionary era (1750–1783), many arguments were pursued that sought to resolve the dispute surrounding Parliamentary sovereignty, taxation, self-governance and representation
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>In the context of British taxation of its American colonies, the slogan"No taxation without representation" appeared for the first time in a headline of a February 1768 London Magazine printing of Lord Camden's "Speech on the Declaratory Bill of the Sovereignty of Great Britain over the Colonies," which was given in parliament.[2] The British government argued for virtual representation, the idea that people were represented by members of Parliament even if they didn't get to vote for them.

Proposals to add representatives for North American colonies were discussed at various times but were politically very unpopular in Britain. They knew it was causing a division but they didn't want to share political power.

https://books.google.com/books?id=OBvNHl6UYKsC&pg=PA126#v=onepage&q&f=false

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