apathyontheeast t1_is3vhej wrote on October 13, 2022 at 2:38 AM

They'd quit giving the university - and the Mormon church - their money and attendance if they truly wanted to make a change.

Chino_Blanco OP t1_is3zrqf wrote on October 13, 2022 at 3:13 AM

Most of these students will eventually leave Mormonism behind. Many of them were raised in families that applied pressure and incentives to push them into going to BYU. I was one of them. It’s a lot to ask an 18-year-old to take that kind of stand against family expectations. Props to these students for lifting where they stand, which happens to be BYU, for now.

Codeboy3423 t1_is45duw wrote on October 13, 2022 at 4:04 AM

Dude. I grew up going to a LDS Church and the fucking pressure to go to BYU and serve a mission for 2 or more Years is FUCKING INSANE!! Mostly the latter part.

To sum it up, you turn 18, 19, or 20 (Women get their Mission call ups much later in mid 20s) Must be Graduated from High school, then You and a Partner of same gender get flown to WHEREVER the hell they tell you to go in US or Internationally, to knock on doors and spread their Religion. With hardly ANY Funds and usually no Vehicles for your area and in a bare bones necessities residence.. with only a Bike. And dont get me started the Horror stories I heard from some of them about almost getting killed or almost shot at..

Its like a really slow psychological torture, because you're also extremely restricted on what activities your allowed to do in your spare time

I didnt serve a mission, but THAT was the main common topics that keep coming up from people and ex-mormons who did serve.

Once you come back, THEN you are pressured to go to BYU and STILL expect to pay for a chunk of it (your not allowed to work or receive additional money during your mission time). Which by this time all valid scholarship offers become Null and Void for other schools (except women who dont need to serve until later, so they have that opportunity).

Hell, I was told the church is supposed to pay for your tuition (a free ride), but that was false.

Even worse, I was told that the church itself is supposed to help pay in times of tragedy like a sudden death in the family.. for instance My mother passed when I was 16 and then my father passed a month later and were buried the way Mormons bury their dead which was expensive.

... The Church did JACK SHIT! My older sister in College was left with those bills and had to work a extra job to pay off that debt. She immediately left that church, and me pissed off after finally hearing at what they did leaving her high and dry a couple years later after I graduated... Basically Its a Scam and exploitation. The people you meet are nice, but after putting on a filter on what they say, its about 50/50 are tolerable and not complete Sheeple nor fully Red either and pretty lax if you catch my drift.

Gone213 t1_is5km9s wrote on October 13, 2022 at 1:47 PM

You mean to tell me a church that has $100 billion doesn't actually help their members out, color me shocked. /s

templenameis_beyonce t1_is4lnj6 wrote on October 13, 2022 at 7:15 AM

BYU tuition is ridiculously affordable—especially for active mormons. so some students may want to leave, but literally can’t afford to.

see r/exmormon for personal stories

ADarwinAward t1_is8lbr8 wrote on October 14, 2022 at 2:13 AM

From every account I have read and heard, most of the students that protest against their rules wish they could go elsewhere. They are there because it’s very cheap for Mormons or because they’re D1 athletes who didn’t get other offers. It’s only $3100 a semester for Mormons. That’s only a little higher than in-state tuition for community colleges in my state.