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Re-AnImAt0r t1_ixfe9rv wrote

This violent assault happened 2 months ago in a police station surrounded by police officers. Why were they not immediately arrested or arrested an hour later after their superior viewed the footage...or arrested the next day when the chief of police viewed the footage?

needs to be a lot more punishment doled out here to all the other police who refused to perform their duty and arrest these 3. If you're a police officer and you witness a violent felony assault it is your duty to arrest the perpetrator(s), even if it is your buddy.

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TikTrd t1_ixfhr3k wrote

Not a police station. No police officers present. No chief of police reviewing video. This is a county jail. Corrections officers are the kind of guys that flunk out or can't qualify for a police department. Their training is a whopping 48 hours. We can all agree there are a myriad of issues with police departments but let's not confuse two very different things.

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ADuckNamedPhil t1_ixfizh4 wrote

I feel like understanding that it's wrong to beat their charges should not require special training, though.

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TikTrd t1_ixfja18 wrote

Completely agree! Nobody is denying that. I'm just saying don't make the assumption these racist pieces of shit are police

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SquidbillyCoy t1_ixfwy4q wrote

Sorry, it’s hard to keep the racist pieces of shit separate.

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buddyravage t1_ixgyye9 wrote

It's the blue uniforms that makes them hard to distinguish. As if by design...

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ADuckNamedPhil t1_ixfjlmk wrote

Ahh, I follow you now. Sorry about that.

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TikTrd t1_ixfjy1t wrote

No worries!! A lot of people apparently don't realize the difference. I blame TV 🙂

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Chknbone t1_ixjjff1 wrote

I blame all the racist cops that make it hard for other hard working racist to get away with thier power trips

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Crizbibble t1_ixfraf5 wrote

County jails are usually run by a Sheriff’s Department as they are the law enforcement for a county. Corrections Officer is usually a state job and they deal with prisons where people are doing a year or longer sentences. Local PD also have jail guards or officers but correctional officers I’m pretty sure are state. This wouldn’t apply here I don’t think but maybe. I don’t know this state’s organization

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TikTrd t1_ixfruur wrote

Yeah, it gets confusing. You can be a Sheriff's Deputy, which is a licensed law enforcement position. Or you can be a jailer with the Sheriff's Department, which isn't a licensed law enforcement position. They work the jail & not in the community like deputies

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Crizbibble t1_ixfsmgf wrote

So in a county setting a jailer isn’t supervising the person because they are innocent until proven guilty I assume but they do other tasks needed to run the facility like finger prints, food service, medical but under the supervision of a sheriff’s department and it’s deputies. Same thing would go for city jails until they can be transferred to county jails.

In the state lock ups a correctional officer is both supervising and administering that facility. Those usually have felons that have been convicted of a crime and the window is greater than 1 year.

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TikTrd t1_ixfttys wrote

Convicted people still go to county jail. Just for shorter terms. But yeah, they're also in there with people awaiting trial.

Sheriff's Dept Correctional Officers aren't sworn personnel like deputies. They don't have powers of arrest & aren't licensed peace officers. They do the same function as a state correctional officer - supervise inmates & run the facility.

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Me-as-I t1_ixfiu4t wrote

This must depend on the state. NY it's 12 months.

https://doccs.ny.gov/employment/correction-officer-trainee#:~:text=Correction%20Officer%20Trainees%20are%20required,8%2Dweek%20formal%20training%20program.

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TikTrd t1_ixfj0ab wrote

That's a state facility. Not a county jail. There are a lot of significant differences. Plus you'll notice it says their academy is only 8 weeks (2 months). The rest is regular on the job training

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Beaser t1_ixftgr3 wrote

Yeah I watched a juiced up wannabe Cop/MMA asshole who had to settle with being a CO beat the shit out of this 19 y/o with parkinson's.

All because he said "Hey Carr, I saw you sitting out in your Prius earlier. Do you sit when you pee too? " Just a childish jab. This guy is massive - 6'5" and all the time he spent outside the jail was at the gym.Not surprisingly his ego was so frail and he was insanely insecure. Welp he proceeded to bounce this guy off every wall as he dragged his ass to one of the holding cells for visits with your lawyer by the gate into our block.

When he had his fun, he left him in there for 4-5 hours while all the COs "visited" him. When he finally came back to our dorm he looked like shit. Thankfully he said only a few actually gave him more licks, most just gave him an earful for no reason and two of the old guys actually took the time to listen to him and calm him down.

Yeah the prison industrial complex that can pay flunkies $30-45$/hr even though plenty are worse people than many of the inmates whose lives they control 24/7. Yet teachers get paid like shit and universal healthcare is impossible to achieve.

Jail fucked me up. Thankfully despite all the terrible shit I saw and experienced. I realized after two months of trying to readjust to the real world it was up to me to change anything I didn't like about my life now that I had control of it again. That was almost 5 years ago and Ive gotten my masters in public policy, work full time in sales and am coming up on 5 years without booze or dope. But none of that rehabilitation was achieved inside those walls. I actually went backwards.

The problem with creating real change is the fact that jails and prisons are where we put people we don't want to help or don't know how to help. Then they become angrier and more bitter towards the society that has rejected them, stigmatizes their mere existence and provides little to no help with prisoner reentry when we send them back into their old environment and set them up to fail whether we let them max out and they're released with no supervision. Alternatively, they're released onto conditional supervision that provides more paths back to jail than onwards to success.

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Me-as-I t1_ixfp5tf wrote

> Corrections officers are the kind of guys that flunk out or can't qualify for a police department. Their training is a whopping 48 hours.

I don't know about county, but you didn't specify in what you said.

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TikTrd t1_ixfpmec wrote

I'm referring to the article & the post that we're on, of course

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mces97 t1_ixfqhk2 wrote

Fuck, corrections officers, in a corrections facility, where the inmates are unarmed (usually, unless homemade weapons), need MORE training than a cop, with a gun???

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TikTrd t1_ixfrd9b wrote

No silly! Lol. The training is only 8 weeks. The rest is on-the-job, similar to how rookie police are trained. You're working but you're still a trainee & aren't allowed to do everything yet

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mces97 t1_ixftug4 wrote

Oh ok. I was gonna say. Well, I did... 🙃

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SewSewBlue t1_ixfp566 wrote

1-2-3 not it!

Like it or not they are in the same boat. Getting beat up by a beat cop or or literally next guy down the line doesn't matter to the victim.

Both are still officers of the law.

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TikTrd t1_ixfqaeu wrote

I'm well aware. My comment is merely to point out to the person I'm responding to that we're not talking about police officers, a police station, or a Chief of Police reviewing footage (not like they would anyway), or even them being able to make an arrest if they did see something like this.

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DawgPack44 t1_ixgbc98 wrote

That’s not entirely true, although their initial training is minimal. In that county in Georgia, there are two options if you want to work in law enforcement: the Sheriff Department or the Police Department. For those who want to work as a Deputy Sheriff, everyone starts as a Corrections Officer. That’s the only path. And, in general, people looking to get into law enforcement (in that area) prefer the Sheriff Department over the Police Department for the overall benefits and work environment.

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Vendedda t1_ixfyfsu wrote

Also many of the jails in Ga are privately owned and hire whoever they want

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ImplicitMishegoss t1_ixil526 wrote

Judging by the guys jacket, at least one guy there was a sherriff’s deputy.

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darthanubis t1_ixfq7pe wrote

Because the 6 months training real pigs get produces a different outcome. Maybe it does. Because the professionals would’ve finished the job and hung him in his cell.

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TikTrd t1_ixfqfqq wrote

You have such a terrible view on life. I feel kinda sorry for you

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clorcan t1_ixg2ep3 wrote

You know why it won't work that way. Those monsters were beating him on the assumption it would never see the light of day (as is usual in these situations). Plus the DA has to work with the police who did this, then it's up to the judge (federal judges decided paul manafort, "led an otherwise blameless life" being convicted of 8 /14 charges)."

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