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OseanFederation t1_iuu3k5p wrote

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As a Christian Conservative with no student debt, I think I’d rather vote against all of that as none of that is in my interest.

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tcmart14 t1_iuu6e5v wrote

As an atheist engineer with no student loan debt, I think I would vote for all of that because the well being of those around me is in my personal interest.

I guess you could say, I try to love my neighbor like I love myself.

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OseanFederation t1_iuu8grh wrote

I give 10% of my income to charity as I believe charities will always be more effective than the government. Murdering unborn children is hardly an act of love to thy neighbor. I personally am against birth control, but I don't think it should be banned. More taxes have never solved anything as it only leads to more government spending. People took their loans, they should pay them back. It is not greedy of me to want to keep the money I worked for but it definitely is greedy for people to expect me to bail them out of their shitty life choices. Blame the government for getting involved in the first place.

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Conscious_Figure_554 t1_iuuknq8 wrote

You are entitled to your opinion. I do suggest look up the word empathy because claiming to be a CHRISTIAN is antithetical to what you believe in. “rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn” (Romans 12:15). in case you were wondering what the Bible says

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OseanFederation t1_iuuqf8w wrote

I mourn the loss of each and every one of Gods children murdered by abortion. I am troubled by the people that are crippled by student debt. I am empathetic towards the plight of others. Tell me how the government taking my money that I worked for will fix the problem.

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tearsaresweat t1_iuw9rod wrote

A self-serving Christian that goes against the teachings of the Bible and Jesus. Call me shocked.

Mark 10:21

21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

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lvlint67 t1_iuuq7og wrote

This is the general difference between conservatives and progressives..

One will selfishly vote in self interest. The other will vote in the interest of everyone....

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OseanFederation t1_iuut63p wrote

Ah yes. I’m so selfish for giving away 10% of my income to the less fortunate and impoverished. I’m so selfish for volunteering my time to help others.

The difference between a conservative and a progressive. One will go out and help those in need. The other demands the government take it from others and do it for them.

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lvlint67 t1_iuvvjgv wrote

> I’d rather vote against all of that as none of that is in my interest

If you won't vote outside of self-interest, you are voting selfishly. You can give to a church or some other shit and still do selfish things...

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OseanFederation t1_iuw21du wrote

So selfish of me not to support the wholesome murder of unborn children. How selfish of me to want to keep the fruits of my labor even after donating a considerable sum to charity.

I’m not selfish or greedy. You are for feeling entitled to my money via the government taking it from me.

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Spritely_lad t1_iuyut6a wrote

>So selfish of me not to support the wholesome murder of unborn children.

Are you willing (to pay higher taxes) to care for pregnant women and (children after they are born)?

If so, why not go vote for politicians who support expanding government assistance to pregnant women and needy families, since children are already going hungry and facing education access issues across the country?

>How selfish of me to want to keep the fruits of my labor even after donating a considerable sum to charity

Very introspective, not many people can honestly admit their own shortcomings like that. Philippians 2:3-4 (NIV) agrees that this is selfish, saying:

>Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.

Also in Luke 21:1-4 (NIV)

>As Jesus looked up, he saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. “Truly I tell you,” he said, “this poor widow has put in more than all the others. All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on.”

Now to address this: >I’m not selfish or greedy. You are for feeling entitled to my money via the government taking it from me

Jesus instructed to both give to God what is God's (i.e., a 10% tithe if possible) in addition to giving to the government what is theirs, which explicitly included taxes.

From Mark 12:14-17 (NIV) >They came to him and said, “Teacher, we know that you are a man of integrity. You aren’t swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay the imperial tax to Caesar or not? Should we pay or shouldn’t we?”

> But Jesus knew their hypocrisy. “Why are you trying to trap me?” he asked. “Bring me a denarius and let me look at it.” They brought the coin, and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”

> “Caesar’s,” they replied.

> Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.”

> And they were amazed at him.

So, just to clarify, are you aware you are going directly against what Jesus instructed?

Edit: minor grammar edit and a link

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