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ShellOilNigeria t1_j2b3prs wrote

What I said means that it includes "all data" even encrypted.

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USFederalReserve t1_j2b6f2m wrote

Capturing encrypted data ≠ decrypting encrypted data

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ShellOilNigeria t1_j2bduxv wrote

Again, I understand that but the vast majority of the population does not use encrypted data and those that do, are probably using something that is backdoored by the NSA like Tor nodes and over the counter software like Windows. Not hard to tie things together. Especially when you have a gigantic budget.

https://theintercept.com/2014/05/19/data-pirates-caribbean-nsa-recording-every-cell-phone-call-bahamas/

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USFederalReserve t1_j2bfpkb wrote

> Again, I understand that but the vast majority of the population does not use encrypted data and those that do,

iMessage is end to end encrypted, among other popular communication software. While metadata and cellular phone calls may be intercepted, I think that's a far cry away "all data".

> and those that do, are probably using something that is backdoored by the NSA like Tor nodes and over the counter software like Windows.

This is a gross oversimplification of the security surface of today. Outside cellular phone calls and SMS messaging, the majority of communication happens with VoIP/internet, which is typically encrypted.

> Not hard to tie things together. Especially when you have a gigantic budget.

It's not hard to tie together because your definitional scopes are too vague IMO.

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ShellOilNigeria t1_j2bkoy0 wrote

The Snowden documents showed that the NSA was penetrating Apple. There is an Israeli company called Cellibrite that can break into iOS products.

Lol @ fucking iMessage

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d36williams t1_j2ci91a wrote

That's a lot of faith in Apple.. I don't think you should carte blanche like that

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allanbc t1_j2czett wrote

Sure, but it's not a crazy assumption that this government agency uses an encryption that the NSA can't just walk past, especially considering they definitely know the NSA will try to look in on it.

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ShellOilNigeria t1_j2ddljz wrote

Lol who do you think the Bahamas is getting their encryption from?!

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allanbc t1_j2f7gub wrote

I would assume not the people who openly said they're spying on them.

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