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IvetRockbottom t1_j1t4d4d wrote

I wonder when we will speak of them in thr past tense, like other extinct animals in our lifetimes. I wonder when we will be in the past tense.

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dijkstras_revenge t1_j1ti6um wrote

I think it would be more like pandas, no longer naturally occurring but they would still exist in zoos

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Numerous_Teachers t1_j1uumkj wrote

I remember seeing that something is causing their penises to be more brittle. I’m not sure if its happening to captive and wild polar bears, its been a while since I saw it.

But if thats the case, they might be done

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powercow t1_j1xqimo wrote

Pandas seem to be trying to genocide themselves. They went from eating high calorie meat to one of the least nutritious plants out there. They sleep more than cats because they get no energy from bamboo. Females are in heat a max of 3 days out of the year. and they dont live with mates or a group, so the male has to find them during those 3 days, if he even cares about having sex which often they dont seem to. AND if she chooses him, and shes picky as hell and tends to not like anyone new doesnt matter if he is more healthy, she wants to get to know them first. And then tends to have only one cub. Well tend to birth two but one almost always dies.

Its baffling pandas are still around for us to talk about. them sloths and sunfish, just seem to be begging for extinction to take them.

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soulsteela t1_j1tz4u8 wrote

Wonder what will speak of US?

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BeachesBeTripin t1_j1ujc5w wrote

Dogs probably we'll be their mythical gods that could bring peace with cats but one day never came home.

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powercow t1_j1xqvf3 wrote

mostly gone by 2050 but supposed to hang on by 2100. Though by then most will be pizzlies, polar grizzly hybrids.

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we_invented_post-its t1_j1t1wk3 wrote

They said this would happen. But science isn’t real, amirite?

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LeinenRates t1_j1t4u4o wrote

The thoughts of some idiots i know:

  1. Global warming isn’t real

  2. Even if earth is heating, it is just a natural heat cycle

  3. Even if its not a natural heat cycle, our country changing anything won’t do anything.

There is a special kind of mind out there that is capable of discounting reality.

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VyrPlan t1_j1t74wd wrote

knowing there are people out there in the wild who, upon hearing something like this will drop several grand modifying their truck to produce more pollution, are why sometimes floods and tornadoes cheer me up a little

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BruceRee33 t1_j1vufwk wrote

My dad passive aggressively says shit like this all the time. I had a text exchange with him on Christmas day and he casually brings up that where my sister in-law lives just had record breaking cold and of course he throws in the "but Global warming right?!? LMAO" I really tried not to bite, but I couldn't help it. Mentioning that climate change is not just about warming in addition to the fact that it's a slow inexorable process doesn't phase him. "They've been talking about rising ocean levels for 40 years but I haven't seen any difference. Funny how they never talk about the scientific theories that contradict global warming." He usually then proceeds to blame Democratic environmental policies and calls it a sham. I just kind of try and avoid any political discussions because it is impossible to make any headway.

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PenguinSunday t1_j1wgcaa wrote

Start linking him articles about people dealing with sea level rise and other effects of climate change. They were indoctrinated through repetition. The only way we can hope to beat lies (besides stopping the liars) is to literally use the truth as a cudgel and beat the information into their heads.

Or national level cult deprogramming. But we're never getting that.

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FlatpickersDream t1_j1tpr20 wrote

Maybe we should all stop flying for vacation and keeping our homes cool during the summers.

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aledba t1_j1v5ky0 wrote

I only turn on the air when it gets above 30 with the humidity. Humidity is not causing a problem then it is OK. If it wasn't for our cat we probably wouldn't put it on. He gets way too hot. Our back patio stays open at night in the summer and we turn the ceiling fan off in that area so the cool air can sink in. Then in the morning, I try to trap the cool air in the house. We have really great blinds to block out the Sun during the hottest parts of the day.

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contactclosure t1_j1wm3i3 wrote

I wish I was making this up but I had someone tell me, with a straight face, the earth needs the hole in the ozone because the earth needs to pass gas sometimes, just like humans do.

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ChillyFireball t1_j1wjsxv wrote

The "facts don't care about your feelings" people sure are good at ignoring inconvenient truths.

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pisstopher t1_j1tbny3 wrote

There it is again that funny feeling.

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Apophylita t1_j1u28q9 wrote

This shall be one of the saddest moments of my life time, to see the polar bears go.

They are the most beautiful, majestic creatures.

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hanazawarui123 t1_j1uqg58 wrote

Hey, what can you say, it was overdue....

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ChillyFireball t1_j1wj7b9 wrote

There are people downvoting this comment not realizing it's part of the song.

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hanazawarui123 t1_j1xgn57 wrote

Damn that's hilarious. But from an outsiders perspective, it does seem like I'm condoning the death of Polar bears so it's understandable

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truecore t1_j1tbgux wrote

On one hand, we have to accept that species go extinct naturally, even if climate change is human induced this time. On the other, humans have all but stopped natural evolution in larger lifeforms. There will be no animals evolving to replace those that die off this time.

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Quercus_ t1_j1tt7lm wrote

Yes, species go extinct naturally, but at a very slow rate. On average a new species of animal lasts for several million years.

The rate of extinction on planet Earth right now is thousands or tens of thousands of times higher than normal.

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truecore t1_j1tx6hc wrote

Yes, I didn't deny any of that. I said what is worse is that they won't get replaced because we've stopped the processes of natural evolution in most species larger than bugs. Evolution has become an anthropogenic process. Worse still, you could probably say it's a capitalistic process where the survival of species is determined by worth and productivity.

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pakattak t1_j1uu4f8 wrote

In other words, if you're an animal you'd better be either cute or beneficial to human agriculture or you're fucked.

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Art-Zuron t1_j1uwso7 wrote

I've heard a few theories about it. They died due to the warming, and their population crashed as a result. They fled into deeper waters and were just missed. The Russians and or Chinese overharvested them to extinction. Maybe all three, or none of the three.

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SometimesY t1_j1vvalz wrote

Tracking by fish and wildlife groups suggests overfishing is not the problem at all. The best guesses are they migrated quite far from where they usually are or there was a mass die off event. Experts seem to be leaning toward the latter. They're not sure if it's directly related to warming ocean temperatures, if it was an infection or what, but that's where they've landed.

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SerenaYasha t1_j1szwwp wrote

Why can't we just put a bunch of fake floating ice for them to rest on?

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I_am_not_JohnLeClair t1_j1tc159 wrote

And we could provide plant based seal meat for the polar bears on the big chunks of plastic that we put into the ocean. It’s a foolproof plan

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GrumpyOldFuq t1_j1ttbki wrote

Yea, once somebody figures out how to make food outta plastic.

But then big food kills off the process by seeing them into oblivion or.....

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masshole4life t1_j1th7su wrote

we should just move that giant trashberg up there. bam. 2 birds, one stone. vote for me.

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pauldevro t1_j1uj260 wrote

Has anyone been able to find the actual govt study?

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internet_chump t1_j1v8386 wrote

It isn't a government study, done by academics. The only link I can find is behind a paywall, but here is the info if you want to Google it. If you can find it somewhere for free please post the link.

Fasting season length sets temporal limits for global polar bear persistence

Péter K. Molnár, Cecilia M. Bitz, Marika M. Holland, Jennifer E. Kay, Stephanie R. Penk & Steven C. Amstrup

Nature Climate Change volume 10

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pauldevro t1_j1vn49q wrote

i believe thats an older study. Most articles mention it's a government survey. Some say they used helicopters; spotted 126 polar bears and extrapolated it to mean 642 bears in that area.

*numbers are off, but you get the point

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Glacial_Self t1_j1unkpi wrote

It's wild that for my entire life, we've been saying they're dying off. Every single year, there's news like this. If we were going to help them, we would've already. They're not going to make it.

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Taelech t1_j1v5keb wrote

We banned most hunting of them. Numbers of polar bears have been climbing for 40 years. Don't give up hope. Bears are adaptable creatures. The big question is how fast is the world going to change, because adaptations take time. That we can do something about. Let's hope we will.

https://www.npr.org/2013/02/02/170779528/the-inconvenient-truth-about-polar-bears

https://insight.factset.com/polar-bears-bullish-or-bearish-outlook

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Just-Signature-3713 t1_j1u6wmu wrote

I have family who live in northern Quebec - winter hasn’t really happened yet - literally two months late and counting in their region. It’s kind of frightening.

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Levonorgestrelfairy1 t1_j1t0lkm wrote

Let's just go full ABC island bears with it an get em some brown bears to bang so their genetics get preserved for the future and they hopefully breed back.

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sersarsor t1_j1tsf2w wrote

Polar/Grizzly hybrids are actually happening, due to their territories overlapping now. But I don't think there are many grizzlies in Manitoba

https://sciencenordic.com/denmark-evolution-greenland-science-special/grizzly-polar-bear-hybrids-spotted-in-canadian-arctic/1434185

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zer1223 t1_j1uhwaj wrote

So basically grizzlies, but even more massive

Well I'm terrified

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agIets t1_j1vured wrote

The only question now is whether we are going to continue to allow a choice few narcissists to continue destroying the planet until our own extinction. Much of it is irreversible at this point, but not all of it. It's been made clear that those with the power will never willingly give it up nor feel any sense of responsibility for what they have done.

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Riftreaper t1_j1v7qj3 wrote

I'm still not over the extinction of the tasmanian tiger. Such a beautiful animal.

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etr204 t1_j1vsb0z wrote

Why dont we chain up little sea mines but instead of exploding, theyre little rest stops for bears to climb on

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Zealousideal_Bid118 t1_j1tmoah wrote

Thats.. just completely false. Did you know it was false when you said it? If you did why are you trying to spread misinformation?

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GardenCaviar t1_j1uec27 wrote

Not exactly.

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LeinenRates t1_j1ukgq8 wrote

Thanks for the article. So their population was artificially capped by overhunting 50 years ago, so although it has risen, its due to humans not hunting them. Not because their environment is improving

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GardenCaviar t1_j1usey8 wrote

Yes, exactly. This is a separate issue than their current decline.

Saying that polar bears are fine because their numbers are up compared to several decades ago is a bit like saying that a ship wrecked crew who has run out of food is fine because the human population on their deserted island is up compared to before they shipwrecked...

The polar bears are not fine.

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GrumpyOldFuq t1_j1tu2vl wrote

While this is in fact true, it's not a fear tactic to understand that the ice is melting at a rapid pace and displacing many species which in turn make it harder for others. Life. Cycles. Symbiosis.

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