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vrenak t1_j1ytjwq wrote

Reply to comment by Cinco1971 in New sanctions starting to bite Russia’s economy as Moscow admits deficit impact by Minezenroll

There's a good chance it's a lot worse than it seems due to their tight monetary control. There are millions of workers that aren't getting paid on time, wages nowhere near keeping up with prices, and russians didn't generally have much room in their economy to begin with, and there's many reports of millions struggling to put food on the table.

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SUM_Poindexter t1_j1zcu6e wrote

so like, when do people go postal?

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vrenak t1_j1zexca wrote

Let's keep an eye out for protests in St. Petersburg and Moscow, if we see mass protests there somethings going to happen....

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linuxares t1_j207ufl wrote

When the vodka and bread runs out

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calm_chowder t1_j21kint wrote

Bread won't run out because they literally stole most of Ukraine's wheat harvest. But vodka.... that could cause problems.

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linuxares t1_j2211z8 wrote

You don't think the state sold it all to try to get more war material?

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PuzzleheadedSnake t1_j20rffh wrote

They won't rebel because of economics. Those poor will try to survive, those rich will try to save whatever they have left.

If people will ever rebel, it'll happen only when FSB and Police will be underfinanced and unable to crush and control the protest anymore.

Then there will be shy protesting, and when it'll be obvious for everyone that it's safe to protest, and when the state TV will fracture and propagandists themselves will call their audiences to protest, only then millions will come to join.

But not when it's risky.

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detahramet t1_j20y7m3 wrote

CPG Grey posted a video a while back the boiled down the basics of being a ruler.

As a ruler, regardless of your country or position, you have three keys to power that exist to keep you around. Your people who collect revenue for you, your people that enforce your will domestically, and your people who enforce your will internationally. As a leader, its your job to distribute revenue to keep these keys serving you.

If any of them start to go hungry, or they think someone else will cut them a better deal, you're already dead.

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AllTheRoadRunning t1_j202n16 wrote

They're running propaganda videos featuring workers whose wages are late. The message of the videos is to join the army to ensure a steady paycheck.

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vrenak t1_j2085c6 wrote

Yeah, really cringy videos. So poorly made propaganda. But considering they don't have a righteous cause I suppose that's the best they can do.

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DavidHewlett t1_j20yc67 wrote

Almost as bad as the ones showing European families freezing to death and eating their pets.

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QuantumInteger t1_j1zvvxr wrote

Aren’t their stock market, especially their forex market, still closed? At this point, it’s just artificial currency control propping up the economy.

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axonxorz t1_j1zxjbw wrote

Since the start of the war, all the Putinites are all over "but the ruble is the strongest it's ever been"

Then I say, please show me an FX trade you've made at that rate.

"wdym?"

Moscow doesn't even inform the bot farms of the whole picture. Can't risk have the rubes learning how to trade like the rich.

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vrenak t1_j1zyctw wrote

Yeah, it's so controlled it has no connection to reality.

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CaseyTS t1_j20g9la wrote

Iirc, they somewhat function but it's very difficult to sell russian securities, especially as a foreigner. And ruble forex trades are strictly controlled by the government. Yeah, it is artificial for appearances. They have to look strong in order to get Ukraine to surrender, and outlasting Ukraine is their only card except using nukes.

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BruceRee33 t1_j20ddro wrote

I was reading something yesterday saying that there are instances where automobile manufacturers are having to leave the airbags and anti-lock brake systems out of freshly produced vehicles due to trade sanctions because they can't get the necessary materials. Death by a thousand cuts it seems to be at the moment.

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Elocai t1_j2202kh wrote

So? That sounds like UDSSR, that's what it was about and that's what they got, mission accomplished I would say

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