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LacusClyne t1_j1l4ak9 wrote

Reply to comment by Lost_creatures in Ontario Walmart turns into 'hotel' as storm-stranded shoppers get stuck for the night by jormungandrsjig

> Would be a nightmare as an employee

I can only hope they're getting overtime/penalty rates but I know I'm kidding myself there.

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btmvideos37 t1_j1l4pz4 wrote

Legally they have to be. If they aren’t they can fight/sue for it

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LacusClyne t1_j1l58mv wrote

> Legally they have to be.

You'd hope so but I'm sure there's something in the legalities where the store has to be operating 'normally', the checkout needs to be turned on or something equally shitty where the employee needs to be acting in accordance to their duties to be classified as 'at work' otherwise they're just 'hanging out at the store'.

Hope they don't have to sue so yeah, we'll see how it goes once everyone is safe and the incident is over.

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btmvideos37 t1_j1l6tzr wrote

Actually the complete opposite. This is in Ontario. I’m Canadian. I might not remember all the details but to my knowledge if you’re being forced to stay at work, regardless if you’re working or not, you have to be paid.

Doesn’t matter how the store is running.

In a non snow storm setting, if your boss is telling you to stay in the store but they don’t need you to work, they have to pay you. If they tell you to clock out, they’re breaking the law. Unless they allow you to leave and won’t write you up for doing so.

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TazBaz t1_j1n848c wrote

Depends on if they’re being asked to perform any duties. They could be told “you’re off work. Do what you want” and they’re stuck there just like the customers, not being paid. If they’re being asked to help people, that’s kind of a grey area of it not being “store functions” and just being “we’re all community trying to deal with a disaster and you have helpful knowledge/skills for this situation”.

Really depends on what’s going on/how things are being said.

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flashstepthruadmins t1_j1lfh2p wrote

And yet if anyone tried to unionize they'd close down every Wal-Mart in that state or province, because they're not a good employer, they're scum.

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W6Hohass t1_j1m2gzj wrote

🎶 You load 16 tons, what do you get? / Another day older and deeper in debt / St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go / I owe my soul to the company store 🎶

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upvoatsforall t1_j1m7rbm wrote

The problem with Wal mart is that they don’t give full time jobs. The manager and assistant manage are typically the only people in a store that are considered full time. Once you’re a full time employee, they need to start providing you with benefits.

Everyone else is part time. It makes it easy to fire them and they don’t get any benefits.

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upvoatsforall t1_j1ptqq9 wrote

Wow. I just looked this up. They’ve made big changes over the last 5 years because employee retention was so low. That’s a huge step, they’ve also increased their minimum wage in most places as well.

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Nizdizzle t1_j1lue6v wrote

Can you elaborate on what makes Walmart a pretty good employer?

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masterofshadows t1_j1m00bv wrote

I'm not the op, but I'm a Walmart employee and while they're not perfect they do in fact take overtime seriously. Wages have gone up significantly. I've received a 50% increase in wages since 2020, where I was already making over 15 in a state that's still on federal minimum. The insurance isn't the best but it's definitely not bad. I can see a virtual doctor for free and most generic drugs are $4. Seeing an in person doctor is $35, which isn't super cheap it's also not super expensive either. They stopped pushing for part time and look to mostly have full time now with set schedules when possible.

In retail this is a good employer. Could they improve on some stuff? Yes. But they're not the evil empire. Like many jobs it really depends on who your management is.

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alice-in-canada-land t1_j1oionx wrote

Worth pointing out that minimum wage in Ontario is $15.50 an hour, and that we don't depend on our employers to pay for health insurance.

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