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The Salvadoran people suffer for generations and nobody extends a hand. As soon as they fight to defend themselves from these monsters, people show up thinking anyone is gonna care about their opinion.

There have been too many victims to expect a soft handed response to the gangs. If any nation wants to take them to their own prisons, they’ve already been told they’re free to do so.

GOP will ignore this - it does not suit their political agenda. Sigh!!!! :-(

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What would you expect from a shithole run by a creepto manchild

Until you’ve seen what those assholes had done to ordinary citizens like ransoming kidnapped family members, only to kill them anyway after extorting their families money, you would think twice. This has been going on for nearly 30 years. So no, if the legislative body voted for it and the people support it, then let the animals rot where they are. They don’t deserve any rights after hijacking the citizens’ rights for so long.

Yeah the people also voted in ARENA and FMLN and supported them even after their theft. So what the people vote and support is laughable.

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When I first read this I thought it said large scale Airbuses.

Anyone who feel sorry for them is welcome to host them.

They aren’t monsters, they’re still our people. You’re blaming the tree instead of the forest that is the US illicit drug demand and the way the US strategically suppresses Latin American economies.

It’s ignorance like this that keeps this system going. Instead of asking what are they doing that’s wrong, you ought to ask why that’s happening.

Sorry to break it to you but criminal organizations as an extension of many governments are not uncommon and regularly exist outside the sphere of US influence

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>The Salvadoran people suffer for generations and nobody extends a hand.

Bullshit. They've gotten plenty of help. El Salvadorans voted for Nuevas Ideas by a huge majority. This is all the obvious result of that choice.

El Salvador will stop suffering when they start making better decisions.

Be careful of ending up with another Duerte running on drugs and taking out his political enemies along with the gangs.

Power does tend to corrupt.

I found Newt Gingrich!

Newt Gingrich agrees with Nuevas Ideas, not me.

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American drug demand and weapon supply is absolutely a contribution. The war that the US supported and abandoned us after is absolutely a contribution.

That said, they’re gone and we’re having to clean this up for ourselves. They’re as human as the Nazi’s to most Salvadorans: only technically. It’s us or them at this point.

This isn’t heavy policing, this is a nornal war.

To be fair, these gangs date back to American interference in the Salvadoran war and subsequent deportation of the criminals hardened in the US from gang their gang violence.

First off Salvadoran immigrants will tell you they are already hardened from the violence in El Salvador and the journey to the US. The US doesn’t make them hardened.

Second, the Salvadoran civil war is not only 40 years ago (old, old gs 😉) they were colonized for four hundred years by the Spanish and had like 20 brutal regime changes or bloody paramilitary events even before the US civil war.

Yes the US eventually picked a SINGLE side in El Salvador after there was like 10 different government changes, sometimes encouraged or propelled by neighboring counties who thy were also in conflict with in the late 1970s, but the US was also at risk of destabilization due to massive immigration waves and Cold War anti-communism priorities.

Edit: context

Edit2: don’t get ur panties in a bunch we’re all learning

This is the inevitable outcome, but because their president is a bitcoiner everyone defends him.

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These gangs literally originated from California. The war sent them to California and gang violence forced them to form their own gangs to protect themselves. Yes, the US made them hardened in the methods of organized crime.

When they were deported they brought their lifestyle back to a land of unemployed violent men, which allowed them to continue under a new banner.

But do you see how crazy that could sound? Despite a millennia of war, kleptocracy, and inequality the second-most, violent Central American country had no organized crime until after America exported gangs back to El Salvador? Gangs have exist everywhere, in every country far longer than america has been a country and there’s nothing unique about American gangs in spectrum of how they operate.

MS-13 and Barrio 18 are the biggest gangs and they both originated in California. Their reputation for extreme violence predated their rise in El Salvador.

If it true the accusations of false charges or just being arrested for having tattoos?

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The thing is, they're arresting people who aren't actually in gangs too.

I've been following this because my folks are from El Salvador, we've been speaking about a cousin who was arrested months ago and has still not been released. His crime was selling juice from his stand to gang members, which makes him gang-affiliated according to the police. We don't expect the charges to hold, as the accuser must show up to testify and so far the cops haven't been able to locate him. False accusations also carry some hefty punishments. Still, pretty fucked situation.

This is all anecdotal of course, and I understand that extreme measures must be taken to fight back against the extreme crimes committed by the gangs.

I'm just saying dismissive comments like this don't capture the totality of the situation.

Do you still have that 1% chance of being murdered every year over there? What are the current stats? I'm too afraid to look.

Dudebro McBitcoin is living good though

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