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StickyBeaverJuice76 t1_j6k6yvo wrote

Putin prepares for another offensive to fertilize Ukraine, NATO’s Stoltenberg warns

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Fyrefawx t1_j6k7bta wrote

People should believe the experts this time. Russia has been preparing for another major offensive. They know they need to do this soon before the western weapon shipments arrive and the Ukrainians are trained to use them.

It will likely be Russia and Belarus this time though.

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SlouchyGuy t1_j6kazom wrote

Which is why NATO should have been giving more weapons and ammunition earlier

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IAmAPaidActor t1_j6krazt wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,633,255)

There is no binding defense treaty except the one Russia signed.

Russia remains wholly responsible for every death on both sides. Russia signed a binding treaty promising to respect Ukraine’s independence and sovereignty of their existing borders (violated), refrain from the threat or use of force (violated), refrain from economic coercion (violated), seek immediate Security Council assistance should the signatory become a victim of aggression (violated), refrain from use of nuclear arms (threatened), consult with another treaty member should questions arise regarding those commitments (violated when they violated all of the above).

Russia has a literal obligation to shoot itself for invading Ukraine that was signed by the current government. It’s not some cheap “Well we’re the successor of the USSR” as if California takes over the USA’s international slot following a fifty state breakup.

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Sreg32 t1_j6ku8hz wrote

Putin is in for the long game. Throwing his citizens into the fodder machine as long as it takes, while counting on NATO and other countries arguing and discussing amongst themselves the best way and procedures to go about things while Ukrainians die.

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Sabertooth767 t1_j6l1a8d wrote

Replying to Sreg32 (#1,637,209)

That's the exact opposite of playing the long game, Russia has one of the worst population growth rates on Earth. They need every young man they can get. If Western estimates are accurate, they're going to feel this war bad in 20 years.

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Sreg32 t1_j6l1nu9 wrote

Replying to Sabertooth767 (#1,639,218)

No doubt their country is being run into the sewer and will be be for a long time. But he does have the advantage of throwing bodies at the war for much longer than Ukraine can afford, unless the Russian attrition rate is maintained and NATO support is maintained

I just don’t get the waffling with western countries regarding support. They should know by know nothing will change with Putin, so the quicker they more forcefully support Ukraine, then maybe the quicker Russia is pushed back and a peace agreement is signed

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Bitter_Director1231 t1_j6mpd9t wrote

Russia has absolutely nothing to gain by doing this. They will be living in squalor for decades. No meaningful economic growth will happen there. They aren't going to win anything.

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CwazyCanuck t1_j6myngv wrote

Replying to ivytea (#1,654,783)

Well, no doubt that peace agreement will include Ukraine joining NATO.

Remember, it’s not about NATO expanding closer to Russia, it’s about not being able to take over countries that NATO has expanded into.

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noodles_the_strong t1_j6oc3fh wrote

The real end of this is going to have to come from the Russian people themselves. We can send Ukraine every manner of nasty weapon system and they can grind the Russians to cookie crumbs. I have no doubt Putin will sacrifice a million or more Russians to met out his end goal. Maybe when they see there is bo young people left they will start to think about change.

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