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Undead_Necromancer t1_j82llnj wrote

> The Republican-led Missouri state house on Wednesday voted against banning minors from openly carrying firearms on public land without adult supervision.

this is stupid beyond imagination.

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BostonDrivingIsWorse t1_j82rd6k wrote

This is pure political horseshit. They’re doing this to explicitly and intentionally hurt St. Louis and Kansas City.

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onyxblade42 t1_j84f890 wrote

Why does it hurt them?

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Dagonet_the_Motley t1_j8555ov wrote

Because arming children with guns in a city is incredibly dangerous and pointless?

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onyxblade42 t1_j855a6x wrote

Why is it worse in a city?

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Dagonet_the_Motley t1_j855vab wrote

Because there are lots of people in a small area and more opportunity for conflict. There are also more targets

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onyxblade42 t1_j8568v0 wrote

So people in rural areas can handle not sitting each other and behaving but that doesn't work in the city. Wonder why that it.

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officialbigrob t1_j87lcgm wrote

Well you're gonna be left wondering, since you'll probably throw any evidence out as "woke CRT mind virus propaganda"

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RaptorPrime t1_j85bk21 wrote

In sorry what part of this law passing or not passing arms children??? Lol your gonna be kinda upset when you learn that I started hunting at 8 years old.

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DinoHunter64 t1_j85e4cq wrote

Okay grandpa, back to bed.

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RaptorPrime t1_j85gfd9 wrote

No i need someone to explain to me the actual backing for this bill that only labels children as criminals. Like, the guns are there. People already own them, this law changes nothing about that. All this law would do, again, is label children as criminals. Why is this necessary. There's no way for children to legally obtain weapons without an adult. There's no reason why a police officer can't already confiscate an illegally obtained weapon. So please, explain, what would this law actually accomplish?

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hatersaurusrex t1_j85eqmo wrote

The whole thing is confusing. This quote:

>A Democrat, Donna Baringer, said police in her district asked for the change to stop “14-year-olds walking down the middle of the street in the city of St Louis carrying AR-15s”.

seems to imply that St. Louis is a lawless wasteland where juvenile warlords brazenly and openly carry semiautomatic rifles in broad daylight so often that police are begging lawmakers to do something about it.

But I can't find any evidence of that happening outside this lady's quote.

Meanwhile, back in reality, teenagers hunting on public land with an old Henry .22 can easily wind up with a police record all because somebody in the state capitol decided to grandstand in order to solve a problem that probably doesn't exist.

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RaptorPrime t1_j85gzp1 wrote

this is exactly what I'm talking about. there's no reason a police officer can't confiscate an illegally obtained weapon upon discovery. A kid with a 9mm in his pocket or carrying a long gun in a completely inappropriate setting, who is detained by police, already is losing that gun. This new law would do nothing to empower that capability and only serves to harm individuals who may have been doing nothing but trying to look after themselves.

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RaptorPrime t1_j85b7vp wrote

How does a child legally obtain the weapon without an adult? If the weapon is legal then the child probably has a legal reason to carry it. If the weapon was obtained illegally then there's no reason a police officer should t confiscate it immediately and permanently if they discover it. All this law would do is label children as criminals when they may have a personally valid reason to carry and have not yet hurt anyone. How do cops treat criminals in America? I don't want targets on kid's backs.

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Nervous_Project6927 t1_j85tmk6 wrote

public land is in the middle of no where and applies to a hunting sense, im pretty sure it doesnt apply to towns and city limits

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