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Ground2ChairMissile t1_j86ynw3 wrote

Reply to comment by OftheSorrowfulFace in Miami Daycare Accused of Putting Children in Blackface for Black History Month by Sandstorm400

Let's lay out a scenario here. How many Australian Aboriginal people do you know? Based on your time of posting, I'm going to guess it's probably zero.

Say you moved to Australia and worked with a coworker who was Aboriginal. And ignorant of the cultural context, you said something incredibly offensive. (I won't list examples, but suffice it to say that there are certain words you shouldn't use, the local equivalent of the N-word, which nonetheless are pretty close to other words in standard English.)

Would you appreciate being labeled as a vile racist, and agree with the assessment, resigning immediately? Or would you apologize for your action and your ignorance, and hope that you'd be forgiven if you promise it wouldn't happen again?

Because this is Reddit and people often dodge the point to try and argue on tangents or unrelated topics: Please answer the question directly before making another comment. Choose one of the two options above.

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OftheSorrowfulFace t1_j86z3v4 wrote

First of all, I live in Australia and as such actively make an effort to learn about first nation cultures.

Secondly, there's a big difference between accidentally using a loaded phrase and painting my fucking face black. And this is about painting other people's children's faces for black history month.

Why do I have to pick from two made up examples, neither of which are relevant to this story? Get out of here with your false equivalencies.

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listinglight778 t1_j88nm6l wrote

Because people will go to absurd lengths to justify anti black racism

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Ground2ChairMissile t1_j86zh3a wrote

> Secondly there's a big difference between accidentally using a loaded phrase with painting my fucking face black. And this is about painting other people's children's faces for black history month.

Both are examples of things you can do out of ignorance. Especially if you're a recent immigrant. And yes, they're relevant for that reason.

I'm sorry that you chose to ignore the question and refuse a civil answer, even after I predicted that you might do so. I can see that there's no point in continuing this conversation, so I won't waste my time.

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OftheSorrowfulFace t1_j86zsxc wrote

Nobody is making you post here buddy. If you don't want to take part in the conversation you don't have to.

But don't act high and mighty because I'm not playing along with your tedious attempts to move the goalposts.

Edit - If you block me I can't read your disingenuous replies about how nobody wants to engage in civil discourse.

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Ground2ChairMissile t1_j8701u0 wrote

Like I said, it's Reddit, so it's an extremely common and predictable reaction to refuse to converse like an adult. So common that I knew there was a decent chance you'd do so right away, and was correct.

Have a nice day.

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AtLeastThisIsntImgur t1_j873w67 wrote

How about you take your smug jaqing off to a different website.
No one needs a 'civil debate' in which you make poor analogies to excuse blatantly shitty behaviour.

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Minhplumb t1_j88te94 wrote

I need an example of a completely innocent phrase I as an English speaker can make in front of a native Australian that would cause offense?

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MeanGreanHare t1_j87dgbm wrote

It's the immigrant's/tourist's/expat's/visitor's responsibility to observe their surroundings and learn the culture, so that they can avoid egregious mistakes. Locals tend to be understanding of small slip-ups, but they won't be so accepting if someone pisses in the plaza fountain as people tend to do in that person's home country.

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