BNI_sp t1_jalc8uf wrote
Reply to comment by Lemesplain in Purple Heart awarded to deputy in fatal shooting during middle school pickup prompts backlash by SLaSZT
As I understand it, the US military has very strict rules on granting awards to protect their integrity. I am surprised that police can actually name a medal 'purple heart'.
Edit: read the story. Who are these police officers? Completely sick.
ShadowDragon8685 t1_jalizcx wrote
> As I understand it, the US military has very strict rules on granting awards to protect their integrity. I am surprised that police can actually name a medal 'purple heart'.
Yes, but they can't actually stop someone else from handing out a facsimilie award as long as it's not at any point represented as being the genuine article.
BNI_sp t1_jalmpt1 wrote
That's surprising. And totally unfair to the recipients of the real medal - especially the purple heart.
ShadowDragon8685 t1_jalr0wh wrote
We take the right of free speech very seriously here. Perhaps too seriously; or rather, we permit it to be abused in manners that allow some "Exercising their rights of free speech" to infringe upon others free speech - or other, even-more-serious rights, like life!
But no, it's not even illegal for the cops - or anyone else - to hand out outright fraudulent purple hearts, as long as those wearing them do not fraudulently misrepresent themselves as having earned the genuine article with intent to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit.
Emberlung t1_jam39mg wrote
If it's even thought about in regards to his court case then it's for tangible benefit (of association with the REAL Purple Heart award) and as soon as they refer to it even tangentially they should be opened up for massive litigation.
ShadowDragon8685 t1_jam45h6 wrote
Nope, because the act specifies the specific military awards which it is illegal to fraudulently claim to have earned for tangible benefit.
This is a different "Purple Heart." Which he did "legitimately" earn, by the standard of "the pigs can give themselves whatever medals they wish."
BNI_sp t1_jalrifx wrote
>We take the right of free speech very seriously here.
I know. But there is also brand protection. If you can't steal a commercial brand name, I am surprised that one can take a free ride on a military medal.
Edit: it seems I am out of touch with situation given a supreme court decision in 2005.
I shake my head and shut up.
ShadowDragon8685 t1_jalrt6q wrote
> I know. But there is also brand protection. If you can't steal a commercial brand name, I am surprised that one can take a free ride on a military medal.
Funnily enough, works of the United States government (including the military) are public domain.
Also, this would be like saying "I work for Pepsi, and I got this nifty 'best salesman of the year' badge back in '17." That's not a crime unless you're doing it to try to obtain money, property, or other tangible benefit. That could mean trying to get a job based on fraudulently misrepresenting your credentials, or trying to claim some benefit (either governmental or not) offered to veterans (or Pepsi Salesmen of the Year), such as free/reduced meals at restaurants, or being stood for alcohol at a bar by someone lapping up your stories of elite Pepsi salesmanship; it could stretch as far as getting sued by someone who had sex with you, then claims that they would not have done so if they had known you were not what you were pretending to be, which would be an interesting court case.
valeramaniuk t1_janp4be wrote
>right of free speech
>
> Perhaps too seriously;
Go fuck yourself.
ShadowDragon8685 t1_janpcl4 wrote
Yeah, no.
Maybe if we'd cracked down on the fucking Nazis when they decided to march through Skokie back in '77, they wouldn't have been parading their fucking swastikas and slavery banners through the Capitol building on 6 January of last year.
valeramaniuk t1_janpskm wrote
The only fucking Nazi here is you. Your kind loves to gag people.
ShadowDragon8685 t1_janpzkj wrote
Oh look! Hey, look! We've found the Nazi with his amazing argument of "No you!"
valeramaniuk t1_janq7td wrote
Right, and it's you.
Parading with a flag doesn't make a Nazi; physically silencing other people does.
I'll go wash my hands after talking to you.
shalafi71 t1_jap2e53 wrote
Parade that flag around me you goddamned fascist, see what happens. What is it you filth say? "Fuck around and find out."? I am game, all in. "Gagging" would be the kindest result I can think of.
"We have hateful views and speech, so what? Why are we being cancelled?!"
You're being cancelled because polite society finds you to be vermin.
Now, would you like to talk about current Republican legislation to limit the 1A? Money says you do not want to talk about that particular cancer. Fucking coward.
trucorsair t1_jap3m7y wrote
Just going to drop this here, in the US military the Purple Heart is also called “the enemy marksmanship medal”. I have one from an IED that almost blew my hand off, luckily the shrapnel hit my metal watch band, tore it all to hell but it took the bulk of the impact, only ended up with six or seven stitches.
RheaButt t1_jap24bv wrote
Cops fucking love to cosplay as military while being too lazy to actually join
BNI_sp t1_jap3963 wrote
To be fair, there are cops which are ex-military. But in general, I think there is a part that want to cosplay. See for example the piece that John Oliver did a couple of years back on the militarization of the police.
Edit: But even worse are the Kyle R.s of the world that want to be tough shooters, but are too lazy to join and get wet, cold and dirty in the mud.
RheaButt t1_jap3glc wrote
Yeah there's definitely a fair few who are just carrying over into another government job so they can work out the rest of their years until pension
BNI_sp t1_jap5b2p wrote
That's ok, I guess. Worse are those that think they are the big elite fighters but do not have adequate training and don't realize that stopping people for traffic violations is probably not the same as hunting terrorists.
BreakingtheBreeze t1_japd5kv wrote
Evidently you have never had a paper cut while handing out a particularly tough parking ticket...in the rain
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