Submitted by Jinaman t3_z9pghb in nottheonion
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blippityblop t1_iyhw7qv wrote
Too late, Utah is the neochristro-facist utopian society everyone wants to ignore.
hoboforlife t1_iyhyan0 wrote
One could also look at Florida as an excellent State to learn from because of how many mental health issues it has.
wxcode t1_iyjfyf7 wrote
Florida has the third lowest rate of mental health issues among adults in the nation.
hoboforlife t1_iyjs8eq wrote
Right, and that's only what's reported because Florida is also ranked 2nd to last out of all US States in terms of access to mental health care.
wxcode t1_iyju16j wrote
"Facts I don't like are wrong"
Accountforstuffineed t1_iyk0cup wrote
Oh the irony in your comment lololol
wxcode t1_iykd3pu wrote
r/woooosh
Accountforstuffineed t1_iykdc7n wrote
.....oh God, and now you're going to play it off as a joke lololol
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pichael288 t1_iyln3jj wrote
Yet Florida is #1 in Medicare fraud, it's yalls largest industry
AndyB476 t1_iykgppn wrote
You can have the lowest rate of anything when you don't report it.
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Xyrus2000 t1_iyiylkt wrote
Looking to Florida for mental health and homelessness solutions is like looking to Jefferey Dahmer for recipe suggestions.
wxcode t1_iyjglxe wrote
Third lowest rate of mental health disorders among adults in the country, actually.
purplegladys2022 t1_iyknetr wrote
I'd love to see where you got your data, because I saw a study that does indeed show Florida as third.
The third highest amount of mentally ill residents with little to no access to mental health care.
Maybe check that holier-than-thou attitude.
wxcode t1_iym70p6 wrote
>The third highest amount of mentally ill residents
It's the third most populated state in the country, or course it's going to have a larger net amount of health issues. I don't have the crayons to explain how percentages work to you.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/mental-health-statistics-by-state
purplegladys2022 t1_iymc5jc wrote
You're a smug little fuck, aren't you? It is what it is.
wxcode t1_iymgatk wrote
Dude why are you so upset? It's just a simple data point that counters the narrative of the OP.
Resorting to insults and and profanity because you disagree with the results of a peer reviewed study is strange. It's okay to disagree but.. just weird behavior.
purplegladys2022 t1_iyntgu4 wrote
Would you like for me to break out my crayons to better explain it to you?
micmac274 t1_iyri4bf wrote
One of you has presented their data, you haven't. I'm inclined to agree with the person who isn't pulling stats out of their ass.
Aporkalypse_Sow t1_iyjnkxm wrote
Lol. When 90% of your population has mental issues, they tend to go undiagnosed. I know more than a few absolutely crazy assholes from Florida, and they'll never see a doctor because they are complete narcissists.
wxcode t1_iyjuaf3 wrote
Perhaps you should ask yourself why you question scientific data when it doesn't align with your political preferences.
I would recommend not including yourself in the cohort of COVID deniers active on this site.
Ramona_Lola t1_iyjrt14 wrote
If it’s true. Florida tends to underreport if their COVID reporting issues are any indication.
lengthybread409 t1_iyhx4cm wrote
"The Miami-Dade Criminal Mental Health Project was spearheaded by county Judge Steve Leifman in 2000. The project seeks to reform how people with mental health issues are treated in the criminal justice system by using community-based treatment and support services as opposed to criminal prosecution"
What is the issue?
JamesXX t1_iyi34uj wrote
Red state bad, apparently, even at the expense of doing something good.
FawksyBoxes t1_iyj7cqb wrote
Misleading title, should have led with Miami-Dade county. Florida for the most part is terrible for policies. Miami is mostly Democratic area.
Upshot12 t1_iyjeb07 wrote
Yer joking right?
lengthybread409 t1_iyi94hy wrote
I know. I was hoping to find that Utah will start publishing all arrests like Florida. That Florida is doing should be the standard for what all states should be doing. Edit: clarified what I wanted to say
PR4WN4GE t1_iyi08mi wrote
Sounds WOKe to me.
PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS t1_iykqaa8 wrote
So what exactly does “woke” mean to you? Tell me in your own words.
PR4WN4GE t1_iykqgcn wrote
Scapegoat so you can demonize community oriented solutions that are empathetic and data driven.
The terms a fkn cop out.
PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS t1_iykqkrk wrote
You didn’t answer my question.
PR4WN4GE t1_iykrcuj wrote
I just fkn said. It's a scapegoat word. It's "the devil". It's a mischaracterization of liberal values. The word is used to put down people trying to become better and acknowledge the ugly truths of our history so we can improve.
PMMEYOURCOOLDRAWINGS t1_iykrjkt wrote
Oh you were being sarcastic with your original comment. Hard to tell since it reads exactly like every person on here who isn’t being sarcastic. Use /s online if you don’t want to sound like a right wing nut job.
PR4WN4GE t1_iyks500 wrote
Meh don't care anymore. I've talked to so many of those psychos I'm dead inside when it comes to internet chat
Tiabaja t1_iyi3jmz wrote
Why not look into one of those successful European countries that don't have homelessness?
afedyuki t1_iyjo3ks wrote
Because Capitalists don't have a free reign at them and their social programs did not get completely pilfered by a bunch of rich sociopaths?
Here in US, HUD housing got defunded into the ground. Mental healthcare is run by drug dealers. All the housing is owned by a handful of cartels who also own all the companies as well as politicians who made all that legal. Yeah... it's pretty much a Banana Republic with nukes at this point.
infinity234 t1_iyjr4jo wrote
Well if you want a serious answer, a) because why look internationally when you can first draw from internal solutions, not educated on what the article discusses (i went to the comments first), before trying to examine policy in a different culture on the other side of the planet, check and see maybe what your neighbor is doing first, and b) Europe, on a per captia basis, doesnt appear to be doing much better than Utah in terms of homelessness. A preliminary google search shows Utah has a homlessness rate of 9.8 per 10,000 people, and similar rates in Europe appear to be 22 (France), 23 (Netherlands), 41 (Germany), 11 (Denmark), 12 (Ireland), 33 (Sweden), 10 (Finland), etc. Doesn't look like, generally speaking Europe, has a better solved homelessness problem than Utah specifically. Doesn't answer why Florida which has a 13 per 10,000, but probably see point of neighbor being easier to work with than someone an ocean over. The outliers to this with exceptionally low homelessness numbers in Europe appear to be (again, just on preliminary seaching),Spain (5), Latvia (3), and Croatia (1). Not saying this to nessicarily defend Utah or to shit on Europe, but something to consider.
whatdawhatnowhuh t1_iyymzkb wrote
What's interesting about this is that those three countries also have a higher rate of multigenerational households, I wonder if that's related
lengthybread409 t1_iyiaoou wrote
What do you mean by "successful European countries" The data I found shows that the Europe and the US are on par. What would be a preferred system?
Tiabaja t1_iyiqz14 wrote
gonzoswunks t1_iykolpw wrote
>comments
Check out Vienna's Public housing. its about 420 / month and its actually very decent.
thecaninfrance t1_iyi0dsm wrote
Are they asking DeSantis to fly the poor and mentally unwell to Democratic led states with Florida tax dollars?
pseudodoxia t1_iyhu14v wrote
Florida is called the bastion of neoliberal social welfare for a reason, friends
Iam_NotAnExpert t1_iyjkpdt wrote
Here in Florida we just elect our mentally ill as representatives for the state.
Fit_Juice_128 t1_iyjz35t wrote
Why? Pretty sure most Floridan politicians would just have the homeless shot in the street.
Kaitensatsuma t1_iyhspg3 wrote
I think "If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer " is already out on loan though
IAmTheClayman t1_iyhyt2m wrote
That’s like asking Hannibal Lecter how to suppress your cannibalistic urges
VyrPlan t1_iyi08k2 wrote
we want to overhaul our whole imagine - we've put Jared Fogle in charge of PR
undercooked1234 t1_iyjpiei wrote
Fucked role model. Usually the rule of thumb is if FL does something, everyone else shouldnt.
zubaz69 t1_iyjui91 wrote
They can do what they did before the Olympics. Put homeless on a Greyhound to Las Vegas. I know its true because I worked EMS in SLC and Las Vegas and right before Olympics I saw a lot of my frequent flyers from SLC in Vegas.Several even still knew my name.
fromwayuphigh t1_iyi7yka wrote
Makes perfect sense... if the point is to get to the point where hunting them for sport is the goal.
Shakespurious t1_iyiafsb wrote
Oh, great, Utah's sending their homeless to Santa Monica too, eh?
Present-Clue-101 t1_iyii1tt wrote
Well it worked with San Fransisco!
LVAUGHNZ t1_iyiqzao wrote
this explains a lot.
RoachBeBrutal t1_iyiuu38 wrote
Very poor choice of locations to emulate.
lengthybread409 t1_iyix1ps wrote
Your opinion please
HumpieDouglas t1_iyjbdzt wrote
Florida doesn't seem like the right place to look.
cookiemonster247 t1_iyji948 wrote
I live in Orlando and I swear we have one of the worst homeless person problems I’ve ever seen in a small well kept city. They like flock here in the winter too. Pretty much every exit ramp has someone begging. Orlando does not do a good job dealing with homeless.
AbuQittun t1_iylusxr wrote
So in other words... it's Florida's fault that people becoming homeless elsewhere come to it's warmer climate? Your logic isn't that great. I think most cities have alot of beggars, but I don't think that beggars are the problem people perceive them to be. Give or don't give, let them beg, but alot of them get benefits but beg for money for other things.
If the cost of living, especially housing, wasn't so high, this problem wouldn't exist.
Jaysyn4Reddit t1_iyor7cf wrote
You think Orlando is a small city?
cookiemonster247 t1_iyqmk4p wrote
Yes. It takes one minute to drive through the high rises downtown
yolo___toure t1_iyk3ddg wrote
Ok this is kinda oniony
mia_elora t1_iyk9109 wrote
Glad to know that Utah wishes to embrace Hellstate as a state of being, but I feel sorry for the citizens who have to deal with such bullshit. (no, I didn't have time to read the article, just... Florida. Ugh.)
Delcium1 t1_iykn63i wrote
Man, Utah's drought is so bad it would be better just sending people somewhere else. In fact, if we could get like a million people to move out east, that would be great.
Jaysyn4Reddit t1_iyoq83t wrote
Well that is a fucking braindead thing to do.
Traveling_Solo t1_iyskvq1 wrote
Soon: Utah comes up with solution to mentally ill and homeless people "Alligators everywhere!"
mackotter t1_izw1j1d wrote
"Have you tried bath salts, because ARGHHHHAAAA SCREAMING SKULLS!!!!!"
hessian_prince t1_iyk3yua wrote
Send them to Florida isn’t the best option.
AssociateJaded3931 t1_iyhsnyp wrote
Look again, Utah. Florida is not the place you want to emulate.