cheezemeister_x t1_j5f3n9e wrote on January 22, 2023 at 3:43 PM

Reply to comment by orswich in A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

This isn't really true. Establishments have to take all reasonable steps. They don't have total liability.

orswich t1_j5f4wnk wrote on January 22, 2023 at 3:52 PM

Wish that was so..

Had a local restaurant cut a guy off before he got too drunk. Management made sure he didn't go to his suv and called him a cab.. he refused and walked off the property, only to return later, smoke a joint in his vehicle and then he crashed into a liquor store and died.

To me they tried reasonably to stop him. But the law saw it differently and fined server 10k and establishment around 30k.

It's entirely why even though I am smart serve certified, I won't tend a bar or serve drinks...fuuuuck that

sllewgh t1_j5fmjvs wrote on January 22, 2023 at 5:50 PM

That's too stupid to be believable without proof.

BMXTKD t1_j5fqtcn wrote on January 22, 2023 at 6:18 PM

Why? Because you serve alcohol for a living?

sllewgh t1_j5frgca wrote on January 22, 2023 at 6:21 PM

I used to, but no, that's not the main reason.

FlockFlysAtMidnite t1_j5hv8dh wrote on January 23, 2023 at 2:41 AM

Because if I told you I was the queen of England, you wouldn't believe me. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to lie over the internet. It's also possible that they entirely misinterpreted a story that did really happen.

Thus, asking for proof.

BMXTKD t1_j5hvsig wrote on January 23, 2023 at 2:45 AM

No, I'm saying this because the contrary seems to be unbelievable. I serve alcohol for a living, and one of the things they drill into our head, is if you over serve someone, you are responsible for everything they do after they leave your venue.

I'm ServSafe certified, and my church is looking into getting me to become an instructor for servsafe,

Nice try though.

FlockFlysAtMidnite t1_j5hw6y5 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 2:47 AM

Yes, you're responsible - to a reasonable degree. The story seems to imply that you are responsible for them without limit, even if they continue to become even more intoxicated elsewhere.

AUniquePerspective t1_j5fd7yf wrote on January 22, 2023 at 4:49 PM

In fact, we join this story already in progress with the individual already having pleaded guilty and taking responsibility for everything but the civil liabilities.