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orswich t1_j5f4wnk wrote

Reply to comment by cheezemeister_x in A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

Wish that was so..

Had a local restaurant cut a guy off before he got too drunk. Management made sure he didn't go to his suv and called him a cab.. he refused and walked off the property, only to return later, smoke a joint in his vehicle and then he crashed into a liquor store and died.

To me they tried reasonably to stop him. But the law saw it differently and fined server 10k and establishment around 30k.

It's entirely why even though I am smart serve certified, I won't tend a bar or serve drinks...fuuuuck that

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orswich t1_j5exxea wrote

Reply to comment by AUniquePerspective in A woman who got wasted at a Marilyn Manson concert blew up $15 million worth of property. She's suing the company that served her. by end_of_rainbow

Ontario smart serve puts ALL the liability on the server and the establishment.

According to legislation, you as a server are responsible for a patron "until they are sober".. so you can cut them off and stop serving, then take thier keys away and put them in a cab home. But if they get home and decide to get in thier husbands car and crash, the server is gonna get charged.

No personal responsibility at all..

So if you are a guy and you get grabby while drunk, you are on the hook for sexual assault (as you should be) and bear full responsibility. But somehow if you are drunk and decide to drive, you were "too drunk to know better"..

I don't get why the law is different in these scenarios. Maybe too many powerful people drive drunk and don't want to be held accountable?

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