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k1lk1 t1_j9jz1yd wrote

> The system is designed to stifle worker organizing

The system based on civil liberties where if someone wants to work, they can choose to, and if they don't, they are also free to choose that.

Any worker who feels they get a bad deal working for Uber or Lyft is welcome to try out whatever new industry their heart desires.

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ThreeLittlePuigs OP t1_j9jzcvu wrote

That's a funny way to say "designed to skirt labor laws and exploit people".

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IKNWMORE t1_j9kojr5 wrote

But it’s not. It was designed to be a get in work and leave system. It’s only people who decided this was their “end game” who are saying it’s unfair.

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TeamMisha t1_j9led3s wrote

In the OP's defense, Uber was literally based on ignoring regulation and laws to get into markets and then was even banned from several cities for such violations. It is still being debating in courts in various jurisdictions whether Uber is a "gig" economy with little to no responsibilities to workers, or whether the drivers are employees. Uber does crazy shilling and lobbying to do everything possible to avoid labor regulations.

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tengentopp t1_j9kxstx wrote

Sounds a lot like the argument that people use against minimum wage: "McDonald's isn't a real job, it's just for kids in high school"

I disagree with that fundamentally. All jobs should provide security for an adult if they wish to do it long-term. Otherwise you're building economies on top of exploiting workers who can't get better jobs, whether it's due to age, education, or simply where they were born. Expecting that there will be an infinite supply of people that can't do better is a really bad bet and ends up backfiring on countries that don't adjust (see Japan).

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AnacharsisIV t1_j9lk5t2 wrote

> All jobs should provide security for an adult if they wish to do it long-term.

All jobs, yes, but all companies within a sector? There are ways to make a career out of driving, like getting a truck diver's license, but Uber itself is explicitly not for people to be doing long term.

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