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pattymcfly t1_j7fwydc wrote

Reply to comment by wefarrell in Tired of parking placard abuse? The DOT is holding a public hearing on some new rules that target parking placard abuse in loading zones on the 7th, and there aren't nearly enough comments. You can comment on the site, via email, or attend the hearing. by ThoolooExpress

And how can it be effectively enforced? Are they going to stand there with a stopwatch once a vehicle arrives at one of these spots? How does that scale?

And what if an unscrupulous service just rotates vehicles into these spots, preventing other companies from using a spot? Basically, squatting on the loading zone spots just so you know they are available.

I make these points as someone that lives near the Target and Trader Joe's in Kips bay. Both of these stores effectively block off full length tractor trailer truck spaces in front of their stores. Trader Joes at 31st and 3rd takes up that space AND double parks the truck next to it, taking up 2 lanes immediately before a bunch of bus stops and then the turn onto 34th st to get to the midtown tunnel and FDR Drive on ramps. It's a huge problem and apparently the city doesn't care?

We need a more comprehensive solution. Maybe move all loading zones off the avenues and onto the side streets, expand citi bike docking station footprints, dedicate lanes to busses on the avenues more strictly enforced, build bike lanes on the avenues that are protected by sidwalks from car traffic. I know it can't all be done at once but proposals that are more fully envisioned can actually show that there is a full plan to make the city more hospitable to people, not just cars.

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CaptainCompost t1_j7g87dj wrote

> And how can it be effectively enforced?

My favorite idea is copying the idle vehicle law: take a video, if the vehicle is there for 2 minutes, the owner gets fined, the videotaker gets a cut of the fine.

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reddititty69 t1_j7gat6t wrote

Set loading/unloading times for loading zones? Scan the registration for cars and pass through every 30 (or whatever) minutes?

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pattymcfly t1_j7gc8l0 wrote

That could work but only for an individual vehicle. What’s to stop amazon from just rotating delivery vans trucks and hoarding the spots?

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reddititty69 t1_j7ih8lj wrote

Nothing, but isn’t that the intent? Does it matter if it’s Amazon or usps or FedEx, as long as the turnover is high?

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