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[deleted] t1_j9fu7ic wrote

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down_up__left_right t1_j9fv6c5 wrote

>far for damage than COVID ever could have done.

Over a million Americans have died from Covid.

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OfWhomIAmChief t1_j9gfaet wrote

Now do opioid overdose

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Turbulent_Link1738 t1_j9gkuvo wrote

That’s because of the drastic measures. If nothing was done and life continued I’d wager 100,000,000 Americans would have died. It got to a point where 3000 Americans were dying daily.

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ifiwereaplatypus t1_j9hrpol wrote

Are opioid overdoses resulting in so many people dying that the hospital morgues were full and bodies were placed out on the hospital streets in like freezer trucks? Because that’s what COVID was in 2020 when we went into shut down.

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lantonas t1_j9iqf6t wrote

Is that why field hospitals at SUNY Stony Brook, SUNY Old Westbury, and Westchester County Center closed in May of 2020 without seeing a single patient?

For a cost of $320,976,632, plus whatever it cost to tear them down.

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[deleted] t1_j9fvzlk wrote

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Karrick t1_j9fws4m wrote

Lol dude if you died from a heart condition that was exacerbated because of covid, covid is absolutely responsible. If you died because you didn't get care because the hospitals were overwhelmed and you had to wait for emergency care, covid was responsible. If you had a scheduled procedure cancelled and your condition worsened to the point you died because of it, covid was responsible.

You can fuck all the way off with your bullshit hairsplitting. Excess deaths are still way up and covid is responsible.

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lantonas t1_j9iqkhd wrote

If you died in a car accident while going to purchase a COVID test, COVID was responsible.

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down_up__left_right t1_j9fwr5b wrote

Or we can look at the excess deaths when compared to years before the pandemic.

Just in 2020 alone:

>Between March 1, 2020, and January 2, 2021, the US experienced 2,801,439 deaths, 22.9% more than expected, representing 522,368 excess deaths

It's possible that the official covid count is actually an under count as any people that died without being tested for covid are kept out of it even if they did have covid.

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drakanx t1_j9h5sbh wrote

Unlikely...more likely an overcount as they counted people who died with covid as covid deaths.

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down_up__left_right t1_j9h8qd3 wrote

>Unlikely...more likely

You're asserting this based on your gut feelings?

Looking at the excess deaths for just 2020 and the total covid death count it would not shock me if the covid death counts were actually under counted.

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drakanx t1_j9han40 wrote

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/01/13/covid-pandemic-deaths-hospitalizations-overcounting/

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down_up__left_right t1_j9hcp9f wrote

An opinion piece?

You realize that's no more authoritative than anyone else's opinion right? They put opinion in big letters at the top to make that clear.

But okay let's look the piece:

>But are these Americans dying from covid or with covid?

The piece doesn't say anything definitive and just asks the question.

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nydutch t1_j9fygjb wrote

Jimmy, are you lying about your dick, too?

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