Tatar_Kulchik t1_j7mrimg wrote on February 7, 2023 at 10:39 PM

Reply to comment by Ares6 in 'Surprise' in Canada as NYC buses migrants to border by esporx

>Crime in the US is a symptom of poverty and inequality.

Correct, which is why crime is located in very specific areas. The areas I have always lived worked or studied in US have been very safe.

It's not like it is a wide spread issue. It's very localised.

Ares6 t1_j7q36cj wrote on February 8, 2023 at 4:42 PM

Which in comparison to other developed nations is still awful. There really isn’t an argument there. Crime in the US should not be as high as it is. Especially for a developed country.

Tatar_Kulchik t1_j7q6fv5 wrote on February 8, 2023 at 5:03 PM

Yes there is an argument. Crime is located in very specific areas. It's not like it is a widespread issue affecting the whole of the country evenly.

In fact, if you remove the 'bottom 10% of society', crime in the US drops like 40%.

Here are some crime stats across countries:

https://www.civitas.org.uk/content/files/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf

Rape is much higher in many OECD countries outside of USA.

So is robbery.

So is assault.

So is burglary.

So is vehicle theft (and anecdottaly, my car has never been stolen in USA or Russia, but my car in England was stolen :) )

Ares6 t1_j7qa5ly wrote on February 8, 2023 at 5:27 PM

Your source proves my point. In almost every instance the US is ranked high in crime rates. And removing percentages to make things feel better for you is wrong. The US in fact has a crime issue. A person is more safer in Germany than in the US. They are safer in Canada than in the US. Crime in the US is a known issue. There is no argument here. If you are comparing the US to a third world country than yeah sure it’s safer. But as your stats show, in much of the developed world. You are much safer in other countries outside the US.