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603er t1_jacg26q wrote

Reply to comment by -Tony in Consultants Gone Wild by ToffeeFever

Agreed. I think much of that comes from folks who want to limit large government and public “bloat”, unfortunately.

There’s certainly bureaucracy in the government. But solving the problems the article laid out definitely won’t come from making working in the public sector undesirable. Those jobs need good wages and benefits. Taxpayers pay for those jobs, yet too many people are hung up on the idea that government is too big/ not good at its job and decide to vote against tax increases to fund public jobs. So when the bare bones government staff then eventually can’t perform well, those same folks are proved right in some way.

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ripstep1 t1_jacspg7 wrote

Why would I pay government programmers 300k a year when their production is inferior to Apple or MSFT?

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603er t1_jactd6n wrote

Well you wouldn’t now because apple can attract more workers with better salaries. If we funded government agencies to pay employees competitively then perhaps that would change. Again - self fulfilling.

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ripstep1 t1_jacuhav wrote

And again, I am unwilling to pay for 300k programmers with my tax dollars. Already annoyed about 100k police officers.

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603er t1_jacv7vu wrote

So what’s the solution then? Because what will happen is that without attracting top talent, government will just be completely unable to do anything. Roads will be terrible, subways will be terrible, and we will all complain about it. Yet we don’t want to fund programs to fix it.

You’ve effectively implemented societal purgatory.

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mrchumblie t1_jacxxau wrote

So the solution is to pay even more money for contractors? Your comments make no sense.

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Bungabunga10 t1_jacx83z wrote

Because the work still needs to be done and it will be outsourced to private contractor who charges 300k x 3.5 multiplier = 1 million per programmer

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AnacharsisIV t1_jacx1vx wrote

Do you believe that no programming job can be worth 300k?

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Aiorr t1_jaemo78 wrote

dude you are probly paying Booz Allen-contracted-programmer-consultant 400k with your tax dollar for the same thing right now.

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newestindustry t1_jad0pwt wrote

Might want to use different examples than Apple and Microsoft when talking about getting way less than you pay for

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