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jamie030592 t1_jdi551m wrote

Why would landlords NOT take the vouchers?

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Airhostnyc t1_jdiduzo wrote

It’s not permanent in most cases. NYC had a similar programs a decade ago that scorned landlords as they stopped the program and was stuck with non paying tenants. Eviction takes up to a year in nyc housing court, that’s 12 months of unpaid rent.

Section 8 only covers 70% of the rent, the 30% has to be covered by tenant. Plus the endless bureaucracy that makes working with these programs a hassle. If people aren’t taking guaranteed money then there are obviously issues with the program.

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patriotpotato t1_jdiip52 wrote

Because in today's market there are no shortage of renters, so if you were a landlord and had the choice between someone with good credit and a good job vs someone who is having the majority of the rent paid for them, it's easy to see why the former would be less risky.

Also there are more evictions (time, money, and headache) and the tenants don't tend to keep the apartments nice.

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MillennialNightmare t1_jdik43f wrote

So discrimination based on generalizations.

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patriotpotato t1_jdimz1j wrote

No just based on track record really. If people don't pay rent and destroy apartments, you don't want to rent to them in the future.

If you had a nice belonging that's worth a lot to you, you wouldn't go lending it out to just anyone, you would make sure you only gave it to someone you know has proven to you that they have the ability to take care of it.

If it were much faster/easier to evict tenants that don't pay, landlords will probably be more open to vouchers, but right now it's just a nightmare.

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Chewwy987 t1_jdiofe5 wrote

That last sentence basically sums it all up what’s gets me about this article I’d the person used I’d in the healthcare industry and they still qualify for a voucher. Most people working in healthcare are capable of managing money well enough to afford their own place. So something is up. Nyc needs to teach financial literacy in grade school if they ever want to get out of this mess

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Chewwy987 t1_jdimtja wrote

Goes beyond that. I have a section 8 tenant snd I’ve been trying to get section 8 to recognize and record the signed legal lease amount for 3 year 6 years everyone said something different no one can get it done attorneys I’ve spoken with Day the courts can’t do anything about it. So we have to fit here snd eat the loss because they govt can’t get it straight. Aldo everyone that works there is a different form of incompetence they as ll need to be retrained. Mind you this voucher holder doesn’t even live in the apartment and the daughters baby daddy lives there illegally. Often when dealing with couches landlords hands are tied so why bother deal with it when someone qualified comes along looking to rent. There’s no reason to.

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Iadara1457 t1_jdibr0z wrote

I worked as a housing specialist for a bit (albeit in Columbus, OH. Not NY state) and the primary reason I would hear from landlords for not leasing a HCV tenant is either because of the limits on how much they can raise rent in a given lease period or they didn't like dealing with the housing authority itself. I have no experience with NYC's HA but if it's anything like Columbus, then it's a shit show for everyone involved.

On the other hand landlords are 95% of the time shit bags and slumlords. I almost got into a fight with one landlord because he refused to accept that the housing authority would not authorize his unit for inhabitance because it didn't pass inspection. In this case it was because he had an open outlet on the wall where water from a shower head would pour. Obviously not going to pass but he disagreed.

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CactusBoyScout t1_jdir4gs wrote

NYC had a good housing voucher system for homeless people back when Bloomberg was mayor but he and Cuomo had a dispute over the funding and basically killed the program overnight leaving landlords with tenants who couldn’t pay.

So they haven’t trusted voucher systems ever since.

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SolitaryMarmot t1_jdjf8yu wrote

because vouchers can only be sent to landlords if the building is up to code. if they take the voucher they will eventually get inspected and be asked to repair their buildings before getting another payment (and the tenant has a lease.) They would rather get someone who will pay the whole amount upfront each month regardless of the condition of the building.

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