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Elizasol t1_jdxlki9 wrote

Reply to comment by Oslopa in New Yorkers overwhelmingly support bail changes ahead of state budget deadline: Poll by Grass8989

When there are many people walking the streets with 100+ arrests, I think it's safe to conclude there is something wrong with bail

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mehkindaok t1_jdy2tnj wrote

It’s all part of the green new deal - connect the revolving door of justice to a generator and it will power the entire state!

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huebomont t1_jdyg14b wrote

Even though the rise in crime happened in states without bail reform too?

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Rottimer t1_jdyvfxf wrote

Shhh! They choose to believe alternative facts, like NY's crime is out of control and isn't as peaceful and ordered as safe cities without bail reform, like St. Louis, New Orleans, Baton Rouge, or Kansas City.

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casanovaelrey t1_jdxnk3j wrote

Opposed to people consistently being wrongly convicted or held for YEARS on charges that are then dropped due to lack of evidence. Bail is NOT PUNISHMENT. We need to do something but we need an original idea.

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Bma1500 t1_jdxpbzp wrote

New York grants the right to a speedy trial known as 180.80. You demand that the DA gather their evidence and indict you within 6 days or you walk free.

If you’re wrongfully arrested, invoke that and tell them to put up or shut up

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casanovaelrey t1_jdxr5g8 wrote

I know about this. Unfortunately I think you misunderstand what "wrongfully arrested" means here. It means you were arrested and/or convicted for a cringe you did not commit. If the DA has evidence that they claim link you to the crime insert Central Park 5, Richard Rosario, etc then this law wouldn't apply. Also everyone doesn't know if this law (and often public defenders as agents of the state pressure innocent people to take deals). There are too many moving parts. The system is broken and running back to something that doesn't work is not the best move.

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Oslopa t1_jdxr0xo wrote

When I make up whatever facts suit my predetermined conclusion, I also find that arguments are easy to win!

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Elizasol t1_jdy8w6z wrote

Either you don't actually live here or you haven't been keeping up with the news over the past few years

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Oslopa t1_jdyoi07 wrote

I live here and am familiar with the NYPost-type coverage, which usually cherry-picks examples and glosses over important details. You’re reacting, not thinking.

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Elizasol t1_jdyop69 wrote

> When there are many people walking the streets with 100+ arrests, I think it's safe to conclude there is something wrong with bail

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