Submitted by TonysCatchersMit t3_ye2d5l in nyc
paisleycatperson t1_itvivcy wrote
What do you think a republican governor would be able to do differently?
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvkfiq wrote
Shock the Democrats into dropping a lot of their ridiculous policies and/or actually do something about this because if he wins it will have only been because of crime.
paisleycatperson t1_itvkqlo wrote
Be specific. You're scared because of subway crime, mta is a state thing. Crime is a city thing.
What do you think a republican governor would do that would result in safer subways?
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvlf22 wrote
A Republican governor would indicate to the Democratic legislature that perhaps they should repeal bail reform and institute policies that make it easier to involuntarily commit mentally ill dangerous people.
paisleycatperson t1_itvmea9 wrote
OK. So... the first part of your sentence will not lead to the second part.
I think you know that too.
It's ok to feel scared and want others to take things seriously too, but government is about the achievable.
And Republicans want to. Republicans are currently banning birth control and banning gay marriage, setting up the same automatic repeals they JUST DID to abortion, for birth control and gay marriage.
It is achievable for them to absolutely destroy your life and leave crazies to dance across the subway with chainsaws. They are not coming for them, they are coming for you.
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvnsg9 wrote
>the first part of your sentence will not lead to the second part
Actually, you don’t really know that. If a Republican won it would be the first time since 2002. He would have won in spite of the fact that he is an anti-choice, homophobic, election denying Trumptard in a state that went +20 for Biden. He would win only because of crime and declining QOL.
You think the legislature wouldn’t understand that? You think he wouldn’t understand that?
Sending another Democrat to the governor’s mansion tells them to stay the course. And I’m completely sick of the chokehold the Twitter left has on NY politics.
paisleycatperson t1_itvokdl wrote
I think repealing bail reform is totally unrelated to the governorship.
And I think Republicans are begging you to focus on crime so they can ruin the lives of gay women, probably not here. Just poorer gay women, far away from her. And they would take a governorship in nys as a sign to go full bore again people like you but poorer.
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvpzoz wrote
How is a sweeping statewide piece of legislation passed in 2019 unrelated to the governorship?
paisleycatperson t1_itvqk25 wrote
Because the legislature is still Democratic.
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvrk3z wrote
Right, but a shocking loss because of a single issue might kick them slightly more right of center than they presently are.
paisleycatperson t1_itvs843 wrote
Might.
Sure, Mit.
You go vote for might. Republican led states have worse crime but you go on for might.
They are not good at reducing crime!
Especially. Crimes. Against you.
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvu22e wrote
Republican states have higher murder rates because they’re poorer and have way more guns. Neither of which are concerns of mine if we elect one Republican governor while maintaining a Democratic legislature.
paisleycatperson t1_itvumka wrote
They are not good at reducing crime in any category, except white collar.
Arleare13 t1_itvpmjo wrote
> He would win only because of crime and declining QOL.
Do you think he would constrain his governance of the state to those areas? I don't. I think he'd do whatever he could to persecute minorities, destroy people's rights, and undermine future elections.
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvrlv4 wrote
The legislature is still Democratic.
Arleare13 t1_itvsomm wrote
And there are still a lot of things a governor can do on their own. Executive orders, funding decisions, political appointments... what happens when he declares that abortion is a public health emergency, or that he's defunding the NYC school system because they teach tolerance of gay people, or that he's dismissing all Democratic district attorneys statewide? Do you think it'd be above a Trump cultist to declare that any future elections that don't go the way he wants were fraudulent and must be tossed out? As governor, he could at least try.
Like I said, it's shortsighted to think that you can send a message by voting for Zeldin without serious collateral consequences. There are better paths to what you want to accomplish.
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itvu4i1 wrote
What paths?
Arleare13 t1_itvvtuf wrote
Make your voice heard in the Democratic primaries. There's a wide diversity of opinion within the Democratic party on this issue, and there will be candidates down to the most local elected offices who agree with you on it. They'll move in the direction you want on crime, without handing the state over to the racists/homophobes/etc.
Just for some additional perspective on what a governor can do even without a friendly legislature, the far-right governor of Virginia recently issued new directives to schools mandating the persecution of transgender students. This was done without legislative approval, because he claims that he doesn't need it to set that sort of policy; the courts will ultimately decide. This is the sort of thing that Zeldin will do if he's given the power to. He's not going to fire DA Bragg then just sit around for four years. He's going to use whatever power he can to implement his far-right agenda.
TonysCatchersMit OP t1_itwnyof wrote
Yeah, I ranked Adams #1 and then voted for him. Working out great.
Arleare13 t1_itvlb29 wrote
I think the Democrats have already realized that, based on how close the race is. And I think that four years of a Trump-sycophant governor would be way, way too big a price to pay to hammer that point home just a little harder.
Make this a message in the next Democratic primaries if you want (I think a lot of people will do just that), but I think it's incredibly short-sighted to be willing to turn the state over to a far-right extremist whose party is actually a genuine threat to the future of American democracy.
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