virtual_adam t1_iuf9k8g wrote on October 30, 2022 at 9:48 PM

Maybe because

there is barely any crime to crack down on in the stations
the little crime there is, is limited to a ~5 second response time within ~20 feet. so we literally need a cop ready to sprint every arms length

And no, a disheveled man who looks like they haven’t showered in a month yelling about time travel isn’t a crime and they can’t stop that. Even though some of you feel that’s a crime personally committed against them

Grass8989 t1_iufaetc wrote on October 30, 2022 at 9:54 PM

What about the man mumbling to himself that hes “going to fucking kill everyone”.

Sickpup831 t1_iufnixv wrote on October 30, 2022 at 11:27 PM

What crime would you arrest him for?

Grass8989 t1_iufr64a wrote on October 30, 2022 at 11:55 PM

Ideally he’d been placed on a psych hold, but if directed at some one, definitely menacing. It’s also against the MTAs code of conduct to act aggressively so removal from the system at the very least.

Sickpup831 t1_iufssdl wrote on October 31, 2022 at 12:08 AM

Then he’s out on the streets mumbling that he’s going to kill everyone. And hospitals don’t hold people for very long unless they’re being violent or accepting the help. There is literally no place or actions to be taken against these people under our current laws until they actually hurt someone.

Grass8989 t1_iuft5lx wrote on October 31, 2022 at 12:10 AM

Probably better on the streets then on a platform where someone can be shoved into an oncoming train, or in an enclosed train car.

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ELnyc t1_iufslk9 wrote on October 31, 2022 at 12:06 AM

Idk if it’s fair to say that there’s barely any crime to crack down on (maybe it is?) but your second point is definitely an issue. Whenever I actually encounter someone who seems dangerous (eg pacing the platform yelling in people’s faces about how he’s going to kill all the [insert various racial/ethnic/religious slurs], there are never any cops around, it’s hard to call 911 or something with the person standing right there flipping their shit, I don’t know what I would say if I did call (“there’s an angry racist down at 34th st but he’s not saying anything to me personally and he hasn’t actually done anything to anyone yet”?), and by the time I could go and get someone in the station, the train would come and everyone involved would be long gone. I’m also always concerned about getting the police involved and somehow making the whole situation worse.