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snobum OP t1_iwv1lz7 wrote
Right! That's why I posted this. It's so shortsighted. And yet I'm not surprised.
sherkhan25 t1_iww9out wrote
MTA specializes in short sightedness
Thisbetheend t1_iwwgwnc wrote
The one this MTA can guarantee you is an inconvenience at the worst time possible
Mysterious_Option727 t1_iwzo2xd wrote
MTA thrives on being disorganized.
Artuistic_Caramel t1_iwvhra1 wrote
"Subways run 24/7" ~ tourists
maverick4002 t1_iwv9kno wrote
My heart sank for a minute cuz I'm going to JFK in a few but I'm taking the A
Edit: it's a shit show from Howard Beach. Delays on the AirTran, then you need to transfer at Federal Circle for a Jamaica Air Train. That's how you get to the terminals. Obviosuly packed, people can't get on the first train that comes.
JBMPropertyMgmtLLC t1_iwvu4v9 wrote
It will still suck a bit though because I’m assuming you have luggage, and the subway will likely be extra packed because of all of the people who would of taken the E train.
maverick4002 t1_iwvuabf wrote
Probably but I'll survive. I'm a one bag traveller lol. Going for 8 days with just carry on
gisomethingelse t1_iwwe1gl wrote
Do you know if there is an A going from Fulton?
maverick4002 t1_iwwfr7w wrote
Yes there is.
pineapplejuniors t1_iwxo4u6 wrote
Can confirm. Airtrain wait was 20 minutes.
I immediately was able to board the transfer though.
ok_computer123 t1_iwxeovd wrote
Am I missing something? Doesn’t Howard beach also take you straight to the terminals? Why do you need to switch onto a Jamaica train when at Federal Circle?
maverick4002 t1_iwxeuyi wrote
The Howard Beach train had delays.
Then when it came it didn't go to the terminals. We had to stop at Federal Circle and then go upstairs to the third floor to catch another train. That train was the train bound for Jamaica (per the announcements) but it was passing through the terminals first.
GlitteringHighway t1_iwv83yi wrote
This will ruin so many plans. I image some evil goblin at a city desk laughing in glee.
SexyPeanut_9279 t1_iwvhny6 wrote
‘‘Twas the Grinch Himself
*cues “you’re a mean one, Mr. Grinch”..
originaltrident t1_iww4a9v wrote
Shame NYC doesnt have a non-transfer train that goes directly into the airport like SF or Chicago
Rhino_Thunder t1_iww4qwf wrote
Even Atlanta’s pathetic train goes to the airport
geekofdeath t1_iwwqbp5 wrote
Even Cleveland's
carpy22 t1_iwxem75 wrote
Cleveland's was the first to do it in North America.
kummybears t1_iwzybkb wrote
Dallas Texas has a direct train that goes from downtown to the airport.
SoulfulYam t1_iwz21g8 wrote
We could have had one, but Robert Moses said: "Fuck you, get in a car."
cguess t1_iwza8qz wrote
It’s because we used federal dollars to build the trains and until like… last year, metros with federal funding had to terminate at airports or not stop at them at all. Why? Who the fuck knows, but you’ll see the same thing at DCA in DC. The blue line in Chicago terminates at ORD so they could get away with it. This is why the subway to LGA sucked for so long, always needed an airtrain in addition to extending the subway.
This law got dropped a year or two ago finally so maybe in 20 years we’ll get a train direct to LGA but no way they’re going to rebuild JFK and EWR.
Mysterious_Option727 t1_iwzo94o wrote
You can get on the airtrain if you take one of the buses to the last stop but a lot of people don't know that. I've been doing it for years when leaving out of jfk.
Consistent-Height-79 t1_iwxe7pw wrote
Hey, but at least we get 24-hour transportation to all 3 airports.
Tsuko17 t1_iwxp0fn wrote
To Newark is not 24 hour, you'd be lucky if you make it on time to the other two with all the delays and hiccups MTA is known for
SimmerDownRizzo t1_iwuvogc wrote
If you're close to, or it's easy to get to Penn Station, then you can always take aLIRR train. All trains stop at Jamaica (except Port Washington). And I'm pretty sure you get to Jamaica before they start collecting tickets. So there's a chance you'll ride free.
FINAL EDIT: You guys, we did it!!! They have a ticket specifically for going from Jamaica to Brooklyn or Penn. Its $5.75, and its called a City Pass.
EDIT: Apparently this may not be the best choice. Proceed accordingly. This maybe a $10 ride to Nowheresville.
EDIT 2: Apparently, there is a $10 surcharge as another commenter pointed out. So this is not really a great plan for a short trip like Penn to Jamaica. That being said tickets can be refunded within a certain time window from purchase. Even if it was a round-trip and it was only punched going one way.
EDIT 3a: That being said, another commenter also pointed out that you should be able to grab a free ride from Penn to Jamaica if you present your MetroCard and inform the conductor that there is a service interruption preventing you from taking the E to Jamaica.
EDIT 3b: This might not apply to planned service changes.
EDIT 4: Always purchase a ticket for the LIRR, my original comment was not to say that you shouldn't buy a ticket, just that you could get a refund if you don't get your ticket punched. But this isn't the best idea because: See edits above.
ILoveTabascoSauce t1_iwv31gh wrote
> And I'm pretty sure you get to Jamaica before they start collecting tickets
Most definitely not - please don't try this. They check the tickets almost always before Woodside. Buy your ticket.
SimmerDownRizzo t1_iwv3ydk wrote
You should always buy a ticket, if it doesn't get punched you can refund it.
ILoveTabascoSauce t1_iwv43og wrote
Ah fair enough. That being said, i've never not had my ticket punched from Penn to Jamaica. Usually it's within the first minute of leaving.
SimmerDownRizzo t1_iwvcnng wrote
Eh, I think it depends on a lot of factors. Eg: Peak/Off-peak, where you're located on the train, how on-time the train is etc. It happens. I've made the trip plenty of times, end-to-end on Ronkonkoma, and not been punched either way.
snobum OP t1_iwvge1v wrote
Refunds are $10, more than the cost of the ticket.
SimmerDownRizzo t1_iwviwa0 wrote
So you're saying you'll have $.75 burning a hole in your pocket. Man, I bet you'll be able to find a sick Street Fighter arcade machine somewhere.
doowi1 t1_iww0i7l wrote
Even if it's activated or no?
SimmerDownRizzo t1_iww4g38 wrote
Apparently, there is a $10 surcharge as another commenter pointed out. So this is not really a great plan for a short trip like Penn to Jamaica. That being said tickets can be refunded within a certain time window from purchase. Even if it was a round-trip and it was only punched going one way.
That being said, another commenter also pointed out that you should be able to grab a free ride from Penn to Jamaica if you present your MetroCard and inform the conductor that there is a service interruption preventing you from taking the E to Jamaica.
Bntyhntr t1_iwv1ntc wrote
If going from Atlantic, you can get an Atlantic ticket at all times for $5. (Probably not if you're taking the E to JFK though...)
Otherwise if using Penn, a CityTicket (only applicable during offpeak) is also $5.
joyousRock t1_iwvvsm6 wrote
Yes LIRR is the move if you're going to JFK from midtown with no E train. buying a ticket is not optional though lol
Funkdrunkscunk t1_iwwe77q wrote
FYI- Off peak and city tickets will save you $$.
intjish_mom t1_iwxo1yg wrote
they have a ticket specifically for going from jamaica to brooklyn or penn. its $5.75, its called a city pass. theres no $10 surcharge on that unless you buy the ticket on the train. heck, if you have the app you can buy the ticket on that. but if you dont use the ticket there is a surchage on getting a refund and you dont get any money back for the low cost of the city ticket since the cost of the ticket is lower than the surcharge
mematixta t1_iwvnpt4 wrote
If there's a Subway issue the LIRR will honor passengers with a Metro Card. Just show the conductor the card and you'll be ok to ride without paying the LIRR fee.
ASmellyThing t1_iww5scg wrote
Idk if this would work for a scheduled interruption. The only times I’ve seen them cross honor tickets is if an interruption in service happens out of nowhere or if they specify that they will cross honor the fares. Buying a city ticket before boarding is the safest bet.
mematixta t1_iwx3r2g wrote
Yes. For a scheduled interruption that is posted no. For other incidences yes.
SimmerDownRizzo t1_iwvufm3 wrote
So my plan DOES work! Teamwork!
NKtDpt4x t1_iwxn5i4 wrote
City Ticket btwn Penn and Jamaica is only $5. Same for other direction.
boldandbratsche t1_iwvg56t wrote
What about people flying into JFK and needing to use the E to get home? I'm guessing we're SOL too? I'm getting in late Saturday night and need to get to Forest Hills.
curlyhairedsheep t1_iwvq9vw wrote
Q10 from JFK Terminal 5 to Kew Gardens-Union Turnpike.
AirTrain to LIRR, city ticket to on the weekends from Jamaica to Forest Hills.
Not sure what end of the neighborhood you're on, but a yellow cab is usually around $25, if there's 2 of you it's about the same price as airtrain plus subway or cityticket.
BlackLuster77 t1_iwwyqb5 wrote
Q10 doesn't run from T5, u gotta get it from Lefferts Blvd AirTrain station
curlyhairedsheep t1_iwx6ehf wrote
Ah, service change for next couple years: https://qns.com/2022/02/mta-bus-route-changes-march-amid-jfk-redevelopment/
FarFromSane_ t1_iww1wln wrote
The F train at Sutphin/Hillside which the E will also be running on) is not very far away. And several bus lines run between Jamaica station and it, so not too hard to catch one if too far to walk with luggage.
smallmind t1_iwxi2bt wrote
If its two people, it makes more sense to pay a cab $24 from the F rather than dragging luggage onto the bus and then the AirTrain for $16.
FarFromSane_ t1_iwxm2ru wrote
Totally. I’m so used to solo travel haha
NewYorkCityGuy t1_iwwdak8 wrote
There’s a shuttle bus to kew gardens
hythloth t1_iwvnxka wrote
Yup SOL
boldandbratsche t1_iwvq84v wrote
Oh fun. We get to Uber at peak time at 1am on Saturday instead of taking the subway four stops after we already paid for the AirTrain passes. Glad I pay those NYC taxes...
salinemyst t1_iww7v3r wrote
Take the A and transfer to the E in manhattan.
boldandbratsche t1_iww86vv wrote
That will take me like two hours instead of 20 minutes.
myassholealt t1_iwxiv00 wrote
Not sure what terminal it stops at, but the Q3 goes to JFK, and it's like a 15 minute ride from JFK to the locust manor lirr stop. Bus stop name is west gate, iirc, and it's the stop right after the laundromat on your right. It an above ground LIRR station so you'll also see the trestle overhead to know the stop. Locust manor to forest hills is like a 12 minute trip.
intjish_mom t1_iwxniev wrote
its not that bad. there is a shuttle bus, if you're going further into the city its annoying but you can take the j to the a. or city ticket on the lirr for 5.75 or whatever the price is. if you really wanted to get an e train you could take the bus to the f line apparently. or the billions of cabs standing outside of the station asking if you want a taxi are always available. if you live in ny you should know at least 3 ways to get home.
twelvydubs t1_iwv8toy wrote
And yet they wonder why people have cars or use rideshare instead of public transportation...
AttorneyGirl95 t1_iwweju3 wrote
And they think the solution is just to increase tolls to encourage people to use public transit that is hardly ever on time, is always broken, and won’t get you where you need to go
LowerMontaukBranch t1_iwwjf6w wrote
Yes, without a doubt the solution is to disincentivize automobile usage and ownership through tolls, but that money needs to be used for transit improvements. The issue is transparency of the funds, it should not be nearly this expensive to improve mass transit.
Tsuko17 t1_iwxp6en wrote
They pocket the money, it never gets recirculated into system for improvements
elecktrobunny t1_iww1uvk wrote
Don't forget you can take the LIRR to the AirTrain at Jamaica too! It's so much faster than the E
Ok-Ad-2605 t1_iwwf97c wrote
It’s more expensive but take the LIRR instead! Way cheaper than an Uber or taxi
FlamingoOutrageous15 t1_iwxp8z7 wrote
It's only $5 if you buy the city ticket
drumsplease987 t1_iwx85zj wrote
It’s a good option if you plan ahead. First time I decided to take LIRR I didn’t realize that there might only be trains to Jamaica every 30-60 mins on a set schedule.
Frenchitwist t1_iww1oep wrote
It’s things like these that make me happy my fam is here in the city
WheatlyWoodson t1_iwyjwi3 wrote
I used to be the same, but my brother, and more importantly, his kids, fled to Florida to avoid income taxes, and my parents followed suit because... grandbabies.
So now Thanksgiving is pretty much not a thing because there's no way I'm traveling to that hellhole during the holidays.
Existing-Motor8143 t1_iwwh9mv wrote
Upvoting for reach. Your service to the community is appreciated. 🫡
nicnicbuildings4dick t1_iwxsw89 wrote
Has there ever been one day when the entire subway system functioned?
mematixta t1_iwvnw6j wrote
Just take the F Train to Sutphin and walk an extra block to the Air Train.
Luke90210 t1_iwvv2q7 wrote
Not a treat if one has luggage.
FarFromSane_ t1_iww2cbi wrote
Several buses share that route. Catch one of them. It won’t be a long wait unless it’s super late.
Luke90210 t1_iww4qet wrote
IIRC, the F train station at Sutphin doesn't have an elevator nor escalator. I am not hauling luggage out of that station to wait for a bus for the Air Train connection.
intjish_mom t1_iwxoiw8 wrote
neither did the e until recently. the railroad and lirr had an elevator, but anything in the subway you had to use the stairs until a few months ago.
huntyqueen t1_iwvyl3f wrote
Wow I was about to take it later today, thanks for posting this!
snobum OP t1_iwvyqck wrote
Today is fine, unless it's late night. Starts at 11:45pm tonight.
huntyqueen t1_iww1ykb wrote
🤦♂️lol thank you again!!
shinbreaker t1_iww1l8p wrote
Thanks for the heads up.
MerelyMisha t1_iww4vkh wrote
Ugh, terrible week for this. Looks like there will be shuttle buses at least.
intjish_mom t1_iwxn7kf wrote
That makes travel for me hella annoying. now i gotta figure out getting around on the J.
Tsuko17 t1_iwxosgl wrote
garbage MTA at it again
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NYC0812 t1_iwyfg6h wrote
Thank you for the info. We plan to go to Qatar for the 2022 World Cup on weekend. Good to know!
Mysterious_Option727 t1_iwznz7c wrote
As someone who lives in the neighborhood. I would just take the A to lefferts and get on the Q10 Limited to the airtran PLUS you don't pay for the airtran.
BluntsAnonymous t1_iwzvd9o wrote
Probably a good thing that I canceled my trip
erikbronx t1_iwxpty7 wrote
https://new.mta.info/guides/apps
Please install the MYmta application on your mobile device. Most of the information you need to commute in NYC is at the tip of you thumbs. The application tells you about delays, reroutes, service changes, and more.
kokchain t1_iwv14oz wrote
Luls on all of the fucking weekends to do it, they choose the one before thanksgiving.