tonka737 t1_iwzlbp6 wrote on November 19, 2022 at 4:19 PM

Reply to comment by yankuniz in Council seeks steep fines for NYC chain stores that fail to shovel snow by King-of-New-York

Parking fines are barely meant as deterrent and are sometimes made/structured as a means of generating revenue off of citizens.

For example, ASP is a crock of shit. If its okay to clean streets once a week in the Bronx or Brooklyn why are certain residential areas in Manhattan set to be cleaned twice a week? It's one thing if its downtown Manhattan where there is a lot of foot traffic and therefore litter but certain parts of upper Manhattan seem like a meal ticket for the city. That and sanitation doesn't pull through somedays but won't cancel ASP and ticket you anyway even though they can and do cancel ASP for other reasons.

That's just one example. Pretty sure there are plenty of other examples where the city targets groups they feel they can get money from.

EDIT: Another example is ticketing quotas/BS tickets ppl are given but choose to pay because the opportunity cost of fighting the ticket is more than going to work.

NO63foryou t1_iwztyeb wrote on November 19, 2022 at 5:21 PM

To be fair, some Bronx residents just prop their hoods up when the sweeper comes. And it’s always the same cars that does it.

And then when you tell them to move they become confrontational about it.

Just move your car and park back after the sweeper comes thru.

Now imagine the Bronx get twice the street cleaning, haha..

RChickenMan t1_iwzwabb wrote on November 19, 2022 at 5:38 PM

I think to a certain degree you're right, but on the other hand, what choice do we have? We all know that drivers come nowhere close to covering the cost of the infrastructure and services they use. Every single proposal to fix that is met with petulant whining, whether it be paid parking permits, congestion pricing, tolls, higher gas taxes, etc. So we need to get a little creative in getting these people to cover the cost of the infrastructure and services they use, and parking tickets are part of that solution.