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Key-Recognition-7190 t1_iyv6w3v wrote

Reply to comment by Evening_Presence_927 in What forced hospitalization feels like in New York City, as Mayor Adams pushes for more by psychothumbs

And that's ultimately where we have a problem it ISNT simple.

Building in NY is hella expensive and reality is NO one with any influence or money wants to build that kind of housing. After all who is going to spend possibly billions of dollars to house a population that let's be honest here only about 20% will ultimately be able to take care of themselves. Are tax payers just expected to take care of these increasing number of people for the rest of their lives? What guarantee is there that supporting a system like that wouldn't be a budget nightmare like what the MTA has become.

While I'm on the topic assuming we do somehow build the housing what stops the vast majority of homeless in the country from migrating here to use these new housing? It's a never ending cycle. Please don't say nationalizing that isn't something feasible until atleast another 2 or 4 years.

On Expanding the safety net (Atleast in New York) in an administration that is filled with unqualified and honestly lazy workers is just asking for fraud and abuse. It's not that I don't think it's a bad idea it's just unless it's manned by an experienced and motivated administration it's once again just going to be filled with massive fraud and abuse!

It's 7 in the morning and I'm phone posting but all I'm saying is the answer isn't so simple there are so many prerequisites needed for this.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_iyx59si wrote

> Building in NY is hella expensive and reality is NO one with any influence or money wants to build that kind of housing.

So force them to. We have the power both in the city government and state government to completely overhaul rezoning laws and community councils. Why don’t we?

> After all who is going to spend possibly billions of dollars to house a population that let's be honest here only about 20% will ultimately be able to take care of themselves.

That’s the point of a social safety net, though. Not everything needs to turn a profit.

> While I'm on the topic assuming we do somehow build the housing what stops the vast majority of homeless in the country from migrating here to use these new housing?

Nothing, but then again, they’re being sent here anyway. If we give them housing, they’re more likely to contribute positively to the city instead of being on the street, y’know, like you people are so concerned about.

> On Expanding the safety net (Atleast in New York) in an administration that is filled with unqualified and honestly lazy workers is just asking for fraud and abuse

Then maybe we shouldn’t have drank the crime Kool aid and voted him in.

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happybarfday t1_iz1mxod wrote

> So force them to.

So we can force developers to build unprofitable buildings but we can't force destructive, sick, mentally ill addicts to get help for their own good and the good of society...

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_iz2cco9 wrote

Yes? Developers don’t have rights.

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happybarfday t1_iz2dy6z wrote

I don't have the right to go piss on the door of your building, shoot up heroin, then pass out there and shit myself and then attack you when you try to wake me up to get the fuck out of the way, but this shit happens on the daily in our city. Happened right outside my own building.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_iz2kxou wrote

Huh? That’s not how civil rights work. Also lmao at you defending big real estate like that.

> Happened right outside my own building.

Sure it did.

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happybarfday t1_iz2neki wrote

You have anything to actually contribute other than naysaying and condescending remarks? Solutions? Research studies? Insights of your own? No?

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happybarfday t1_iz2ra7i wrote

Won't happen, might as well say we should give them magic beans... let me know when it does and I'll eat my hat.

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