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happybarfday t1_iz1lrv8 wrote

Reply to comment by Evening_Presence_927 in What forced hospitalization feels like in New York City, as Mayor Adams pushes for more by psychothumbs

So tell us what they want lol, you want to bitch about people putting words in your mouth but then you have nothing to say about solutions yourself... I feel like inevitably it's some pipedream shit where we're going to build 50 new skyscrapers with a free one-bedroom apartment for every homeless person, with free amenities, free drugs and alcohol, free food, free education, free medical aid, $2000 basic income a month, free everything and then they will magically one day totally willingly decide to stop being mentally ill and stop being addicted to substances and become productive contributing, self-sufficient members of society.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_iz2czt2 wrote

People have literally been saying the solutions for the past 5 years: build more housing, expand the social safety net, improve healthcare in the city.

> I feel like inevitably it's some pipedream shit where we're going to build 50 new skyscrapers with a free one-bedroom apartment for every homeless person, with free amenities, free drugs and alcohol, free food, free education, free medical aid, $2000 basic income a month, free everything and then they will magically one day totally willingly decide to stop being mentally ill and stop being addicted to substances and become productive contributing, self-sufficient members of society.

It’s funny how you whine about being called out for putting words in my mouth and then immediately double down on it. Never change, fascist.

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happybarfday t1_iz2emrb wrote

Right, so throw more money at the problem. How am I putting words in your mouth? I just got into more specifics that you fail to actually talk about when you put forth vague ideas.

We literally said the same shit - free houses, free healthcare, free "social safety net" (food stamps, drug treatment, counseling, education and employment programs, etc). If you disagree on the specifics then feel free to elaborate.

I'm just being realistic about how much free shit would need to be provided to give the majority of mentally ill and/or just generally spiteful and angry homeless people to get their shit together, get sober, and support themselves at the bare minimum...

I'm all for this shit. I pay my insane taxes here every year. And every year nothing changes. The thing is, I don't trust our government to any of this shit not matter how much money we give them. What happened to those billions that went into Thrive? What the fuck has the government been doing with our money?

Politicians and developers and corporations, etc will just embezzle and/or waste the money or do some other corrupt or incompetent shit to enrich themselves and prolong the issue so that they can continue to get more. There's no profit in fixing homelessness for anyone so why would they have any incentive to do that? I have zero confidence left in government, whether right or left...

Call me a fascist or socialist or whatever, take all my money and put whoever you want in office, just somebody fucking do something to make any change whatsofuckingever.

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_iz2l5f8 wrote

> We literally said the same shit - free houses, free healthcare, free "social safety net" (food stamps, drug treatment, counseling, education and employment programs, etc).

Please show me where I said that.

This is the funniest thing about you people.

> Call me a fascist or socialist or whatever, take all my money and put whoever you want in office, just somebody fucking do something to make any change whatsofuckingever.

You say that, but then you mock the policies that would actually make a difference.

What are you for, good sir?

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happybarfday t1_iz2nqhp wrote

>Please show me where I said that.

Uhh your words in literally your last post:

>People have literally been saying the solutions for the past 5 years: build more housing, expand the social safety net, improve healthcare in the city.

I'm not mocking the solutions but rather the delusion that any of this shit will actually happen and not be turned into another grift where the winners are the politicians, corporations and wealthy, the homeless get some token scraps, and the middle class (us) ends up paying for all of it and getting nothing in return. Free flying ponies made of gold for everyone would make a difference too, but I would mock the idea of that happening as well...

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_iz2shin wrote

> People have literally been saying the solutions for the past 5 years: build more housing, expand the social safety net, improve healthcare in the city.

That’s not “free houses, free healthcare, free "social safety net" (food stamps, drug treatment, counseling, education and employment programs, etc).”

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happybarfday t1_iz2sxkf wrote

Oh okay, so the homeless people are paying for that new housing, healthcare and social safety net programs and resources? Great sounds good.

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