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Mammoth_Sprinkles705 t1_j1ro23r wrote

Reply to comment by SmashRadish in High utility charges could derail MTA’s $1.1B electric bus transition by PichuLovy

It's just the government pissing your money down the drain.

$1 billion dollars for electric buses that ultimatimaly get electricity from mostly fossil fuels. This is just a handout to their corporate donors

If these pice of shit politicians want to do something about climate do something about corporate pollution.

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OhGoodOhMan t1_j1rux4g wrote

Not true, NY gets most of its power from nuclear and renewables.

Even still, burning natural gas for electricity to charge electric vehicles is far more energy efficient and less polluting than combustion engines.

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CairnBarrow t1_j1s4d8t wrote

Naturally a paywalled article would be this misleading…

https://www.nyiso.com/documents/20142/2226333/2022-Gold-Book-Final-Public.pdf

Page 136 shows the facts on 41 Gigawatts of NYISO generation assets available to meet the 24 GW peak winter demand forecast. Renewables including nuclear and hydro total to 12.2 GW. This includes a whopping 0.132% of peak for solar, bearing in mind that peak winter load comes at night in NYC.

Therefore NYS can only meet half of the peak winter load demand with its nuclear, hydro, wind and other renewable power assets. The remaining half needs to be met by expensive imports or fossil assets, and you can bet that most of the dual fuel burners will be running on fuel oil due to natural gas curtailment.

I would be interested in seeing some normal load and consumption data in addition to annual capacity factors for installed assets. This would likely paint a better kWh picture. The kW picture will be pretty bleak for years to come. Still, I remain confident that we can put a good dent in it during our lifetime if we all do our part by reducing consumption during peak demand periods and doing your own research when demand is low.

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Platapos t1_j1ryomo wrote

Even if electricity is generated using fossil fuels, it’s still a far more efficient system than a combustion motor burning fossil fuels.

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Iskald_ t1_j25dci9 wrote

Electric also produced no local pollution or noise pollution. This city is dirty and noisy as fuck, electric buses is such a nice change.

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