supremeMilo t1_j1avzm4 wrote
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Democrats suck at messaging, what wasn’t Zeldins face plastered over a chart with red state murder rates!
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supremeMilo t1_j1awktn wrote
Because Zeldin’s campaign and popularity helped carry multiple House seats for R.
Silver-Hat175 t1_j1e9jhu wrote
Republicans had an advantage in midterms like they always do when a President is Democratic and the economy is bad. It has nothing to do with Zeldin himself. Republicans did not gain as much as they were projected and it is seen as a failure of the party for that. Here you are celebrating victory and making up a reason why a Republican should be praised for it. Do you people ever stop living in your fantasy world you force all others to live in?
supremeMilo t1_j1e9wv2 wrote
Hochul severely underperformed Schumer, and it probably cost the Democrats the house. Zeldin ran a great campaign; even if crime in NYC and NYS is lower than red states, if you let republicans control the narrative on it you will lose/lose seats.
Silver-Hat175 t1_j1glrd2 wrote
The party in charge at midterms always underprerforms. That is how politics in America works and the Democrats did much better than all projections said and past midterms. You are making up reasons for why a party did well based on your feelings when historical facts show otherwise. Another useless troll barking at his shadow and wasting my time.
supremeMilo t1_j1gm06z wrote
New York State Dems got absolutely smoked and have nobody to blame but themselves. Hochul ran a terrible campaign, and let Republicans control the narrative on crime even though NYS and NYC are safer than most Republican states.
If NYS Dems hadn’t lost their congress seats, Dems could have carried the house.
But okay, don’t hold Hochul and the state house accountable for fucking up the maps and their campaigns and enjoy Republican rule.
Silver-Hat175 t1_j1gmsri wrote
26 state senate races... 4 flips. Absolutely smoked? Make up facts on your own time not wasting mine.
supremeMilo t1_j1gmzfn wrote
Democrats would have held the US House of Representatives if Sean Patrick Maloney and the others didn’t run such shit campaigns. Zeldin controlled the messaging on crime and the house races followed.
Silver-Hat175 t1_j1gojgn wrote
Broken record keeps making up what he feels is right. Democrats ran shitty campaigns but did far better than projections and holding the House was going to be impossible. Now I'm going to ignore you. Be gone troll.
supremeMilo t1_j1gom90 wrote
You are talking about national democrats who did great I am talking about NYS Democrats who are an embarrassment.
$800,000,000 for Buffalo stadium, conservative chief Justice nomination… wake the fuck up.
Silver-Hat175 t1_j1gpb9a wrote
me: shows the ratio of GOP flipped as extremely low, 4 in 26 New York races
you: ah HA you are talking about national Democrats!!11
Truly a political science genius not an embarrassing little child cosplaying as a genius
supremeMilo t1_j1gpg5f wrote
4 out of 26 is terrible in a state where the D senator won by 13.2 points.
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supremeMilo t1_j1ax66t wrote
Zeldin swung voters to R for all positions, not just Gov.
If Hochul won as hard as Schumer, Dems probably would have carried 3-5 more house seats.
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ineededanameagain t1_j1bahy5 wrote
Come on dude, I’m about as mainstream liberal as they come. Yes Dems over performed this cycle, but if NY Dems did their job Dems probably hold the house. Zeldin made the race closer, enough to carry Rs down ballot, than it should have been cause Hochul was absent.
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ineededanameagain t1_j1bcbdy wrote
They won in districts Biden won comfortably in 2020, ofc Zeldin had enough of an appeal to peal off independents and moderate/conservatives Dems to vote for Rs in those districts.
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supremeMilo t1_j1axgax wrote
It’s hyper relevant and dolts like you are the reason Democrats will continue losing elections. Hope you enjoy a permanent R scotus.
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supremeMilo t1_j1axv1t wrote
And they lost the house specifically because of NYS democrat incompetence.
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supremeMilo t1_j1ayquq wrote
That’s a triple down. Not a walk back. Dems fight for better maps, and or Hochul puts up a decent campaign, against Zeldin then we aren’t having this convo because this jackass loses.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b049a wrote
NYS Dems lost seats that’s an L. The rest of the country did great.
If you are representative of NYS Dems then the problems are obvious.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b13m7 wrote
It’s democrats fault, they lost to him.
Are you so naïve you think republicans gaf who they elect as long as they are a warm body and vote with McCarthy?
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supremeMilo t1_j1b1wut wrote
People like you are why the Democrat party sucks.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b2ica wrote
You clearly do or you would not have posted.
> The narrative that this is democrats fault is really something else.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b2vm3 wrote
Sure thing, enjoy house Republican leadership and keep standing for democrat failures.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b3f3h wrote
We thought they imploded when they nominated trump and then they banned abortion in half the states. Typical dem L snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, just like this case in Long Island.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b3x5d wrote
I’m a liberal that actually cares about results instead of stanning for democrat party failures.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b44ui wrote
You are no different from MAGAots who treat politics like a team sport.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b4ego wrote
I know, that’s how democrats could snatch the L from Santos.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b5j3x wrote
Am I repeating the same point, or walking it back? Make up your mind. And right winger lmao? I want the Democrats to succeed, which involves ditching whiny losers like you.
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supremeMilo t1_j1b5sgn wrote
We need to court sane people; not the ones dragging down the whole country with their state failures.
mission17 OP t1_j1b2djm wrote
Definitely not in New York state, which very well may have cost the Democrats the house. This fact has been well established.
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mission17 OP t1_j1b2y71 wrote
The connection is pretty obvious, considering we’re talking about a candidate for NY governor and his impact on the US House’s composition.
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mission17 OP t1_j1b4yhn wrote
I fail to see how criticizing the Democratic Party for not campaigning better in New York State constitutes right-wing rage.
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mission17 OP t1_j1b5z3r wrote
People on the left are clearly allowed to criticize the Democratic Party without being right wing. Especially when they’re criticizing Democrats not taking measures to perform better. Why should the Democratic Party be immune from that criticism?
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mission17 OP t1_j1b80fn wrote
> Zeldin swung voters to R for all positions, not just Gov. If Hochul won as hard as Schumer, Dems probably would have carried 3-5 more house seats.
That’s exactly what is being discussed here. From this very thread. NY Democrats underperforming relative to Democrats nationally and costing Democrats the U.S. House in the process. Maybe you thought you were talking about something else, but regardless, your characterization of the other user is totally unjustified.
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