Submitted by seejordan3 t3_zyttm6 in nyc
jonnycash11 t1_j29wykf wrote
Just because NYC is “progressive” and “diverse” does not mean that all communities equally support one other.
I personally would not take my kids to one of these events, and I resent being called a bigot or whatever for thinking the whole thing is stupid. I feel like there is a sick dynamic where the drag queens want the protestors to come out so they can say “see, people hate us”. They feed on it as some sort of negative validation.
I think it exposes children to issues that are not age appropriate (burlesque houses and gay bars are not kid friendly spaces) and that’s what bothers people.
Edit: other than the subway, where do drag queens normally appear in their full, glorious regalia? At their office jobs?
mamiyaRZ67 t1_j2aihh1 wrote
Agreed. I also would not take my children to these events. But they are clearly advertised and each family can make that decision for themselves. It would be different if it were sprung upon children at an in-school assembly, for example.
Curiosities t1_j29zwwk wrote
>(burlesque houses and gay bars are not kid friendly spaces)
They're not going to burlesque houses or gay bars, and nor are they getting an adult-oriented performance. They're getting silly, colorful performers reading age-appropriate material, and performing for children, with their audience in mind.
Wowzlul t1_j2a6itu wrote
I think a lot of this anger is stirred up by social media shit-stirrers (one in particular) who posts videos from actual drag and burlesque shows where a few parents have (wrongly, in my view) taken their children to be in the audience.
This conveniently omits the much larger number of shows where this does not happen, the much larger number of parents who don't take children to these events, and of course the completely age-appropriate, de-sexualized drag queen story hours put on by NYPL.
It implants the idea that lgbt people are somehow publicly sexual (in the prurient sense) in all contexts, at all times, that there is no such thing as drag or crossdressing or gender-nonconforming behavior of any kind that isn't sexual, and that therefore lgbt people have to be driven from any and all public spaces where children are present, to protect children from age-inappropriate sexual displays. It erases all distinctions between drag queen story hour and the drag show at your local gay bar, putting a target on the back of the performers as well as anyone who "supports" them.
It's sneaky, posisonous, and pretty scary to be honest with you.
F0zzysW0rld t1_j2azena wrote
There are many reasons someone might think Drag story time for children is inappropriate and unnecessary, that dont involve bigotry and religious extremism. My own brother, an open and proud gay man, doesn’t like them and none of his reason are to do with him being some sort of self hating bigot. Drag is adult entertainment. Fantastic entertainment but was always for adults and sexual in nature. People keep bringing up clowns and circus. The circus has always been family oriented entertainment. Outside of the recent “story times” Drag has not exsisted in any scenario outside of adult entertainment. I think many of the people hosting these events arent doing so because of a genuine passion for putting them on for children, but to get headlines like this and being able to point to the protests.
im_not_bovvered t1_j2dxu1d wrote
>Drag story time for children is inappropriate
Well, if they've ever let their kids see a clown or theater, etc., they're hypocrites. Drag is not always sexual and has been around since at least ancient Greece...
And, frankly, people have the right to not allow their kids to go to drag story time. They DO NOT have the right to keep other parents from sending their children or to keep it from existing.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j2bzvji wrote
They aren't doing a full burlesque show for kids. They are reading a story in fabulous outfits.
lilitalybabe t1_j2a00xz wrote
Please reference a time when a drag queen at a story hour mentioned burlesque house and gay bars. Give me a break!
dekalbavenue t1_j2bnd3j wrote
Why the focus on gay bars? You think a random dive bar is somehow kid appropriate?
jonnycash11 t1_j2btwti wrote
Can’t say I’ve seen too many Queens soaking up starlight in Irish pubs, but that’s just me.
dekalbavenue t1_j2dqajz wrote
Reducing the entire drag phenomenon as "Queens soaking up starlight" is why you're called a bigot. Resent yourself for deliberately being an asshole.
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seejordan3 OP t1_j29zcdh wrote
You think the queens are bringing the dongs to story hour? Lol. Educate yourself.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j2bzqk3 wrote
Huh? It's a story time by performers doing a fun thing for kids. They aren't trying to teach about burlesque or get them to perform. It's just a story time.
jonnycash11 t1_j2c9fsh wrote
Uh huh. And where do they normally perform?
SolitaryMarmot t1_j2cak06 wrote
Why would it even remotely matter? You gonna ban all the other dancers in NYC from dressing up and doing a story time? Better get rid of that opera for kids thing because Carmen is lewd af Jesus cishet dudes are scared of everything.
LoneStarTallBoi t1_j2dxu30 wrote
>I feel like there is a sick dynamic where the drag queens want the protestors to come out so they can say “see, people hate us”. They feed on it as some sort of negative validation.
I'm curious what gives you this feeling.
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melelle18 t1_j2bv8p1 wrote
Just a thought, if you resent being called a bigot perhaps don’t say things that sound bigoted?
Drag shows are a form of entertainment and In no world are they trying to get harassed on purpose? That’s a truly bizarre idea
What’s the difference between a drag queen in costume and any other person wearing a costume?
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