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FrenchToastForDinner t1_j3y5wov wrote

the guy's white so this post won't get locked

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j3z9sxo wrote

Notice how no one is complaining about his race not being given and him being described as "light complexion" either.

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user_joined_just_now t1_j3ztcpz wrote

Notice how none of the progressives here are talking about how we need to increase access to mental health services and address the root causes of such crimes instead of locking him up. You know he did this because Eric Adams didn't hire enough lifeguards, right?

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Wilsomess t1_j3zwcd0 wrote

Also notices how the conservatives aren't bemoaning and being racist and calling out all whites as anti Asian

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j3zyw37 wrote

That doesn’t happen in other threads either. What a whack ass straw man.

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user_joined_just_now t1_j400eg9 wrote

Progressives don't advocate for addressing "the root causes of crime" through social services, more lifeguards, or whatever the solution to the latest "root cause" is, while opposing carceral solutions to crime? Yeah, that literally never happens ever. My mistake.

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Sharlach t1_j3z5jlw wrote

Yea, because the racists won't flock to this one and make it a cesspit.

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Rottimer t1_j3yuk58 wrote

It also won't get 100+ comments and bunch of dog whistles plus some bull horns blaming one particular race for all violence against Asians.

edit: I was wrong. The racists still showed up to write a bunch of dog whistles about black people and took the number of comments above 100.

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567Antonio t1_j412vu9 wrote

Because one race IS significantly more to commit racist crimes against asians, whether you like it or not.

Here's the data - https://www.city-journal.org/anti-asian-violence-separating-truth-from-narrative

Let's see how you try to spin and hide facts, since you people don't think of Asians as worthy of being defended.

> The data indicate just how misleading the narrative of white-on-Asian violence really is. While black perpetrators account for 27.5 percent of violent attacks against Asians, Asians commit less than 0.1 percent of violent attacks against blacks, indicating little role for proximity. Most violent attacks against individuals of a particular racial group are committed by other members of that group—except for Asians, where a plurality is committed by blacks. In fact, blacks are responsible for 305 percent more violent crime against Asians than neighborhood demographics would predict, while whites and Hispanics commit significantly fewer attacks against Asians than would be expected.

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[deleted] OP t1_j42u9ch wrote

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567Antonio t1_j432rh1 wrote

> Except that you’re wrong and the vast majority of anti Asian acts nationwide is committed by white Americans.

On per capita basis, blacks are more than 300% likely to commit hate crimes against Asians, despite you trying to hide that fact.

And of course, here's the data again that you conveniently ignore - https://www.city-journal.org/anti-asian-violence-separating-truth-from-narrative

Let's see how you try to spin and hide facts, since you people don't think of Asians as worthy of being defended.

> The data indicate just how misleading the narrative of white-on-Asian violence really is. While black perpetrators account for 27.5 percent of violent attacks against Asians, Asians commit less than 0.1 percent of violent attacks against blacks, indicating little role for proximity. Most violent attacks against individuals of a particular racial group are committed by other members of that group—except for Asians, where a plurality is committed by blacks. In fact, blacks are responsible for 305 percent more violent crime against Asians than neighborhood demographics would predict, while whites and Hispanics commit significantly fewer attacks against Asians than would be expected.

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Gb_packers973 t1_j43x819 wrote

To be fair - the combine verbal and physical assaults into one, and they rely on the reporting frequency of the perpetrators race.

When the article doesnt mention race, it doesnt get included in the data set.

Quite frankly no one would bat an eye if every asian attack in the city was kept verbal.

The multiple curb stomping of asian seniors and women is not really found amongst other demographics in the city.

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Yonder_Zach t1_j42rz9u wrote

Interesting and which race is that? And do you have any data or just a feeling ?

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567Antonio t1_j430zdc wrote

Here's the data - https://www.city-journal.org/anti-asian-violence-separating-truth-from-narrative

Let's see how you try to spin and hide facts, since you people don't think of Asians as worthy of being defended.

> The data indicate just how misleading the narrative of white-on-Asian violence really is. While black perpetrators account for 27.5 percent of violent attacks against Asians, Asians commit less than 0.1 percent of violent attacks against blacks, indicating little role for proximity. Most violent attacks against individuals of a particular racial group are committed by other members of that group—except for Asians, where a plurality is committed by blacks. In fact, blacks are responsible for 305 percent more violent crime against Asians than neighborhood demographics would predict, while whites and Hispanics commit significantly fewer attacks against Asians than would be expected.

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Yonder_Zach t1_j438pou wrote

Literally no one is saying asians arent worthy of being defended. So often these sorts of stories are totally blown out of proportion and capitalized upon by conservatives and/or racists trying to rile people up. The link you posted is interesting if true- unfortunately articles published by right wing think tanks are rarely accurate.

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567Antonio t1_j43kah8 wrote

Right wing think tanks are absolute garbage.

But that doesn't mean far lefties can also be absolute garbage.

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Yonder_Zach t1_j43znnb wrote

Yeah sure but theres basically no far left in this country at all, let alone far left think tanks influencing policy and manipulating huge swaths of the country. There are however well funded and well coordinated far right organizations doing all of those things at an unprecedented scale.

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Darrkman t1_j462smk wrote

Here is something to keep in mind when dudes like this post these articles.

Always question why an article will post a percentage but won't show you the ACTUAL numbers. It's easy to use percentages only to push a narrative.....its a lot harder when you have the numbers that go with it.

Finally also remember that City Journal is published by the Manhattan Institute a very conservative think tank that once said that the group that cares the most about Black lives mattering were the POLICE.

It's amazingly convenient that an article will say Black people make up 25% of incidents with Asians but SOMEHOW doesn't tell you the make up of that remaining 75%. I WONDER WHY????

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567Antonio t1_j47ff92 wrote

Raw data set they used is right here from the government - https://bjs.ojp.gov/library/publications/criminal-victimization-2018 with over 180,000 violent attacks on Asians on record.

It doesn't matter who published it, the fact of the matter is the data shows blacks are 300% more likely to commit violent crimes against Asians.

> It's amazingly convenient that an article will say Black people make up 25% of incidents

It's 27.5% actually. And since we're talking about hate crimes, it excludes asian on asian violence.

Why are you trying to hide hate crimes. You're exactly the same as white trumpers who claim racism doesn't exist.

Dr Martin Luther King Jr said ""Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."

Just because the data discomforts you doesn't mean you should hide it. He'd be ashamed of you right now.

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Rottimer t1_j415e9x wrote

It doesn’t matter if that’s true. The comments imply that the race is the problem when it’s very obvious that the vast majority of that race has never committed a crime. Painting an entire race as criminal is in fact racist.

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567Antonio t1_j415qma wrote

Pointing out that violent racist crime is disappropriately done by one race relative to their population is facts, not racism.

Which means relative to other races in New York, they have more racists, and therefore are more racist per capita, which is another fact and simple statistics. Just like we can say Trumpers are racist too.

Feel free to point out anything wrong.

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Rottimer t1_j417v7t wrote

And once again - someone pushing racial division proves that they have piss poor basic math skills.

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567Antonio t1_j431ml2 wrote

And of course, here's the data again that you conveniently ignore - https://www.city-journal.org/anti-asian-violence-separating-truth-from-narrative

Let's see how you try to spin and hide facts, since you people don't think of Asians as worthy of being defended.

> The data indicate just how misleading the narrative of white-on-Asian violence really is. While black perpetrators account for 27.5 percent of violent attacks against Asians, Asians commit less than 0.1 percent of violent attacks against blacks, indicating little role for proximity. Most violent attacks against individuals of a particular racial group are committed by other members of that group—except for Asians, where a plurality is committed by blacks. In fact, blacks are responsible for 305 percent more violent crime against Asians than neighborhood demographics would predict, while whites and Hispanics commit significantly fewer attacks against Asians than would be expected.

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567Antonio t1_j419x2k wrote

Since you're reduced to childish tantrums and name calling, and ranting in a corner all by yourself, I guess we're done here.

People like you who try to silence others fighting back against hate are the same as racists. Usually racists themselves.

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Unusual-Solid3435 t1_j41kck6 wrote

Do you even live in NYC? How is this what brings you out of hiding and into the frying pan?

Edit: nice tactic of asking me a question and then blocking me

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567Antonio t1_j42b19k wrote

You have a problem with arguing against someone who would rather hide and silence racist hate crimes? That what brings you out of hiding and into the frying pan?

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Saladcitypig t1_j436s47 wrote

I wonder what other things might be linking a ton of these attackers… it might be poverty and untreated mental illness. But you know, keep pretending you’re telling facts, like Fox News.

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567Antonio t1_j4370yk wrote

Because one race IS significantly more likely to commit racist crimes against asians, whether you like it or not.

Here's the data - https://www.city-journal.org/anti-asian-violence-separating-truth-from-narrative

> The data indicate just how misleading the narrative of white-on-Asian violence really is. While black perpetrators account for 27.5 percent of violent attacks against Asians, Asians commit less than 0.1 percent of violent attacks against blacks, indicating little role for proximity. Most violent attacks against individuals of a particular racial group are committed by other members of that group—except for Asians, where a plurality is committed by blacks. In fact, blacks are responsible for 305 percent more violent crime against Asians than neighborhood demographics would predict, while whites and Hispanics commit significantly fewer attacks against Asians than would be expected.

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[deleted] OP t1_j3zo25h wrote

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j3zz4sr wrote

Funny how you cop not only to being racist but also ban evading. If you’re the user your point eluded to, you left out the slurs and curses you used as well.

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[deleted] OP t1_j400t3a wrote

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j401joa wrote

They did in the modmail on the last account….I never said they did that in the above comment

ETA: lol you were also an alt. Well done giving yourself an award and then catching a ban from the admins

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[deleted] OP t1_j401nt1 wrote

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j401xj4 wrote

Cool? They were banned a second time for ban evading, which they admitted to. Not sure what you’re upset about or why

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iatepudding t1_j403l90 wrote

Cuz they just told me what happened, and they DIDNT use any racial slurs

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j405ekx wrote

Yes I'm sure the person ban evading who sent me PM's just now calling me names and who made 3 comments on this account, 2 of which were basically accusing the Mods of doing things "because they're black" is totally being honest.

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ThreeLittlePuigs t1_j41ggei wrote

lol at you being another Alt of the OP! Way to give yourself an award and then catch an admin ban

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Imaginary-Bread1829 t1_j3yas2n wrote

Lol at all the racism that flies under these posts meant to highlight obscene, condemnable racist actions

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LiftyJoestar t1_j3yd7b2 wrote

If it's against Asians, literally no one cares. Racism in America is only whites and blacks

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Imaginary-Bread1829 t1_j3yze0e wrote

Yeah, you can tell by the way people are quick to spin this in a black vs white way

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Bjj-lyfe t1_j3zf34r wrote

Exactly, people are very self serving: racist white people comment when a black guys the perp, and black ppl use this as a platform to bemoan their racial issues when a white guys the perp, but no one actually discusses or cares about the Asian victims or the culture/entertainment industry that portrays Asians in a particular, biased way which lends itself to these incidents

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citydudeatnight t1_j3zmrde wrote

When the Atlanta shootings occurred, many of the All Lives Matter folks attacked the asian victims for being possible prostitutes and hosting brothels while at the same time the sheriff dismissed the situation as the shooter having a bad day. The statements were there to vindicate themselves in some fashion and it was sad to see. I'm not anti-white. I'm absolutely disgustedand horrified by people and cowards who hide behind keyboards to discredit or ignore victims to elevate their own racial tribe as if the entire race asked them to do it.

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Imaginary-Bread1829 t1_j42mmrm wrote

People honestly take race crimes almost as if it’s a personal attack if the perp is the same race as them. It’s like they’re afraid of being generalized so in return they generalize. The comment above articulated it perfectly & you provided a great example; why is it so hard to detach from news stories, not make it about themselves, to focus on the victim? It’s like these stories only create more racism, instead of awareness

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1600hazenstreet t1_j3y73aq wrote

He also won’t be getting free Mets tickets.

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Topher1999 t1_j3yas1w wrote

De blasio called, he wants his joke back

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1600hazenstreet t1_j3zxr55 wrote

NYC taxpayer here: Not until he pays back the money from missing NYPD security detail.

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I_AM_TARA t1_j3yhjga wrote

Correction, this post won’t get locked because it will not attract the hoards of rule breaking brigaders that forced us to lock those other posts. :)

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_j3yq050 wrote

People always say it’s brigaders like a real New Yorker is fine with certain hate crimes depending on the race of the perpetrator.

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SuperTeamRyan t1_j3yt7wd wrote

More like it doesn't fit the political wedge republicans are trying to create between black and Asian communities who primarily vote democrat so those chuds won't be here to promote it.

The delivery guy who was shot over duck sauce was big news until it was revealed to be a white guy then no one gave a fuck. Same thing with the grandma who was set on fire until it turned out to be some white kids from bensonhurst once again people stopped giving a fuck.

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koreamax t1_j3yuh5h wrote

I'm so sick of that word. It's just an excuse to validate your point of view

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I_AM_TARA t1_j3z72y4 wrote

What point of view exactly? That users with little to no previous activity in this subreddit go to certain posts to drop slurs and such is something that shouldn’t be tolerated?

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koreamax t1_j3z9l18 wrote

No, as I said above-it's just an excuse to validate your point of view.

People in this sub throw that word around immediately. Not everyone has the same point of view as you.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j3y9etn wrote

Why is that?

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HeyaGFY1 t1_j3yx8x4 wrote

^ Like clockwork

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j3yyp1h wrote

I don’t remember replying to you. But like clockwork, you racist are drawn to my comments like a moth to a porch light!

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HeyaGFY1 t1_j3zf699 wrote

The projection is real.

Esp when there is no mention of racism anywhere in my comment. Quite damning, actually, that this is your knee-jerk reply. 🤔

Edit: as is your post history re: Asians. Yikes

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j404ll0 wrote

More like the stalking is real. Hiding behind an alt account, no post but a bunch of replies to me.

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