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markskull t1_jdb6102 wrote

Reply to comment by ForeverNick1 in SEPTA hopes new vertical gates will deter turnstile jumpers by APettyJ

Seriously, I'm with you on this.

Is fare evasion REALLY this prevalent? Has it ever been so bad that we needed this for the subway in the last 20 years? This seems most like a solution looking for a problem rather than an actual fix.

There's no way SEPTA is losing even half of what these things are going to cost over 5 years. This doesn't make me think the system is safer just that I now have to waste more time trying to get through the turnstile.

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AbsentEmpire t1_jddqxma wrote

Yes it's prevalent and blantent. The claimed number is 100% an undercount.

However the bigger issue is not so much the lost fair (which is a problem ), but rather the problems that fair evaders bring onto the system that drivers away more riders compounding the problem and decreasing ridership.

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