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ColdJay64 t1_jeem6lq wrote

Shooter in custody. Best possible outcome, someone who thinks doing this ok is now off the street.

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bigassbiddy t1_jeexj1m wrote

Let’s hope he stays off the street

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JBizznass t1_jef2ual wrote

Spoiler alert: They won’t.

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ColdJay64 t1_jef6m03 wrote

PPD makes arrests in under 20% of non-fatal shootings. In the rare case that PPD actually makes an arrest and recovers the weapon, isn't the conviction rate pretty high?

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JBizznass t1_jef9dqb wrote

Yes, but The number of PPD arrest for all shootings has gone up significantly since 2015 but can’t keep pace with the even more rapid rise in violent crime. This isn’t surprising since the number of officers and manpower has not corresponded with the increase in violent crime. But Philly has also seen a large increase in dropped and/or failed prosecutions of the apprehended criminals. This is especially true for VUFA (gun possession charges). By 2020 almost 50% of gun possession charges were dropped by the DA leaving these criminals who are know to have illegal guns back out in the street to shoot and kill people. Also throw in that the DA’s office lost a really big chunk of their experiences lawyers under the kras (both by direct removal and voluntary resignation) and so you have baby lawyers prosecuting violent felonies who are way in over their heads and out matched to the seasoned defense attorneys. Also lawyers don’t want to go work there now because they know it’s a shot show that won’t benefit their careers.

I agree that there is a lot of nuance in these statistics and the causes of them can be argued from many angles, BUT it all adds up to the fact that a violent criminal in Philly more than likely won’t face significant penalties for their crimes.

Source of statistics: https://controller.phila.gov/philadelphia-audits/data-release-gun-violence-trends/

Lawyer loss: https://www.law.com/thelegalintelligencer/2021/12/07/phila-das-office-lost-over-130-staff-in-2021-records-show/

https://6abc.com/amp/philadelphia-news-district-attorney-larry-krasner-prosecutors-fired/2867602/

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ColdJay64 t1_jefcjbf wrote

I'll look through these. People often produce stats around this type of thing that I have no idea where to find on my own. Thanks!

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burrata-academy t1_jegtexf wrote

come on. They recovered a gun, the entire incident is on film from every possible perspective, and there are dozens of uninvolved witnesses. This dude is pleading guilty and getting decades upstate.

This kind of reflexive, unthinking negativity is so counterproductive. We will never fix the issues in this city if the base-level discourse is this detached from reality. I promise you, you can still criticize Krasner plenty without making up things to get mad about. (edited grammar)

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JBizznass t1_jegvhqv wrote

This asshat beat a man to death with a traffic cone for fun and was let out to roam the streets without even notifying the family of the victim: https://www.fox29.com/news/family-elderly-man-traffic-cone-beating-james-lambert-blindsided-teen-suspect-posted-bail

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burrata-academy t1_jegyrv2 wrote

Yes. And you can criticize that case. You have.

But this is actually a different incident with different people and different characteristics. Kneejerk reactions based on unrelated incidents are stupid and counterproductive. They also lessen your credibility on the other stuff that actually warrants critique.

You're in the burbs right? Why did you let yourself get the Krasner brain disease when you don't even live here? Such a waste.

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JBizznass t1_jeh1fpk wrote

Fyi: I moved to the burbs after almost a decade in the city. The final straw what having a bomb go off and shake my whole house in the middle of the night during the riots. Also right before lock down I got jumped on the el for no reason from which I still have unhealed injuries. So please just keep your self righteousness to yourself.

Also here’s another great example of violent felons not ‘getting decades upstate’ after pleading guilting to horrendous crimes: https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-district-attorney-larry-krasner-us-attorney-william-mcswain-feds-charge-ak-gunman-20190228.html

My pessimistic sentiment is based in reality. Really wish I could live in your delusion though. Probably more pleasant to be that far out of reality.

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CT_Real t1_jefzqsw wrote

I will bet you $20 this guy gets serious prison time (10+ years).

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