this_shit t1_isyobpu wrote on October 19, 2022 at 5:43 PM

Reply to comment by ipissexcellence21 in PPD audit: Review identifies flaws that affect crime response by Easy-Reading

Where is this evidence of a command staff that ever knew what they were doing? If the department started falling to pieces when Ramsey left, that would indicate that Ramsey was the one holding the shit show together, not a mysterious clique of competent managers.

And are you implying that someone (Ross? Coulter? Outlaw?) purged the upper management of PPD? Do you have names of competent inspectors you think were purged?

You implied (not stated) that there was at some point a competent command staff. My reading comprehension could be shit, but if you're not actually saying the things that you're thinking, that's just bad writing.

ipissexcellence21 t1_isyzt84 wrote on October 19, 2022 at 6:58 PM

Yes Kenney and outlaw have, you do know the deputy commissioners are pretty much if not all new since outlaw arrived right? Are you just arguing to argue or do you not know what’s going on? Sullivan, Wilson… if Sullivan was still there the riots wouldn’t have happened. Kenney got rid of him the brought in outlaw, there was no plan for the riots at all. This is all well known.

this_shit t1_isz20jm wrote on October 19, 2022 at 7:12 PM

> Are you just arguing to argue or do you not know what’s going on?

Bro you've got to unwind your conception of who you're talking to. Look at your comments: you come in hard with accusations of bad faith and then act incredulous when people ask you actual questions. It's fully weird.

> if Sullivan was still there the riots wouldn’t have happened.

No argument there, Outlaw's incompetence was well-established as the primary reason for the lack of a response plan and the way the riots devolved. She is also the one who threw Wilson under the bus for the tear gassing on 676. She's a politician, not a professional.

But both Sullivan and Wilson were inspectors and deputy commissioners during a 7-year period when the city's murder rate steadily climbed and their ability to solve crimes declined. Calling the people who ran the department into the ground "competent" is exactly the kind of willful blindness that /u/scumandvillany is talking about.

This is all interpersonal politics, same as every other dysfunctional agency in philly - one group is mad at another group so they blame everyone for all the problems. But surprise, surprise, ousting your political enemies isn't the same thing as solving problems.