mustang__1 t1_j5vub56 wrote
Reply to comment by ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
not all grift - some business did use it and did need it to maintain staffing levels without doing furloughs or layoffs, keeping the burden away from the swamped unemployment system. that said... yeah, poorly administered.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vukm0 wrote
I'm being hyperbolic when I say "all grift" because some did flow to needy businesses. But the vast majority was grift, and that's what I have a problem with.
hazeleyedwolff t1_j5x39ez wrote
And absolutely none of those tax dollars should have gone to churches, but millions did.
sttaffy t1_j5ygmux wrote
My dad and I own a business and at the time we're the only two employees, so we could base our loan only on our salaries, and we got both rounds of loans and had both forgiven. We sent it all to our independent contractors at the time, and then hired them W-2 when we were able to return to work.
Having done the paperwork, there was a lot of the 'honor system' involved, and I saw how we easily could have manipulated numbers or misrepresented things to receive more. It could have been more stringent, for sure.
That said, it kept food on a lot of carpenter's plates.
The fraud should be pursued with aggression. Fuck thieves.
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