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ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vyk2n wrote
Reply to comment by ColdJay64 in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
This is true. But it doesn't extend to the point that gun sales could be prohibited. Gun dealers can be subject to more regulation because they aren't protected by the Second Amendment. But if they were so regulated that the were de facto prohibited, then that would be unconstitutional: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undue_burden_standard
I don't think this has ever been tested, but I also don't think any state has ever tried to regulate gun stores so aggressively that they couldn't exist. If a state did I think it would be a virtual certainty that the Court (especially this Court) would strike it down as an undue burden on people exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.
It's also worth nothing that this article is discussing a split amongst different circuit courts regarding this issue (when different Federal Courts come to different conclusions about an issue). Thus, this issue is still up in the air and hasn't been settled by SCOTUS yet.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vukm0 wrote
Reply to comment by mustang__1 in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
I'm being hyperbolic when I say "all grift" because some did flow to needy businesses. But the vast majority was grift, and that's what I have a problem with.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vudpf wrote
Reply to comment by ColdJay64 in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
Well then it would fail the undue burden standard. You can't just make it impossible for someone to exercise their rights and claim those rights still exist.
Anyway, it's fine if you think the 2nd Amendment needs to be updated, but it seems odd you'd say "current gun laws" as if this is a new thing or could be changed with ordinary state legislation. There is really nothing you can do beyond amending the constitution.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vsh9u wrote
Reply to comment by EnemyOfEloquence in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
Most of the money went to solvent businesses and scammers. If the money went to places shutdown by the pandemic I wouldn't be upset. Small businesses that shutdown for years got a pittance along with ordinary people, while other businesses that were not affected by the pandemic got huge windfalls.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vrg47 wrote
Reply to comment by ThereAreDozensOfUs in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
Yeah I'm just pissed that more people don't talk about it.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vr4xi wrote
Reply to comment by ColdJay64 in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
You don't think the right to have a gun for self-defense would be curtailed if selling guns was unlawful?
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vooek wrote
Reply to comment by LFKhael in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
Continental Armory was misreported, the thieves couldn't get past the security gate.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vokaa wrote
Reply to comment by sha1ashaska22 in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
Continental Amory was misreported. The perps could not get past the security gate.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vo8y8 wrote
Reply to comment by ColdJay64 in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
So by "current gun laws" you mean the 2nd amendment? You think all gun sales should be prohibited?
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5vo05v wrote
Reply to comment by TreeMac12 in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
PPP was all grift and poorly administered. Tons of shit like this happened and no one talks about it. Everyone got mad at checks for people but no one cares that billions in PPP went to scammers.
ONE_GUY_ONE_JAR t1_j5zhdkn wrote
Reply to comment by GreenAnder in Philadelphia juvenile street gang linked to thefts of nearly 100 firearms from Pennsylvania gun stores by TreeMac12
I understand that no system is going to be perfect, but PPP was such a fucking shitshow. I touch on it often professionally and the amount of grift that happened is unconscionable.