apathy2 t1_j6dtpot wrote on January 29, 2023 at 5:23 PM

Reply to comment by Paparddeli in 50% of ALL of SEPTA's problems can be solved overnight by installing barriers that prevent gate hopping on Broad and MFL lines by scatterbrainedpast

> I think higher gate-style turnstiles are pretty common on European transit systems.

Different places have different systems but many places in Europe operate on the honor system. There will be ticket purchase machines at the entrance or on the platform and nothing preventing you from getting on the train. However, they have random ticket inspectors and if you don't have a ticket, you pay a very expensive fine.

So, it's quick and easy for everyone to get on and off and there is a large enough potential penalty that it's not worth it for the vast majority of people to try to skip out on.

Paparddeli t1_j6du93s wrote on January 29, 2023 at 5:26 PM

I've been on light rail like that, but I don't think I've ever seen a metro system with ticket inspectors though. I would be fine with that kind of system on our regional rail. Our system is kind of already set up for it. Maybe even buses and trolleys if we have a redesign. But we'd need to actually have the inspectors and enforce the fines.

kelopons t1_j6ldbml wrote on January 31, 2023 at 3:29 AM

Central Europe allows you to use public transportation without checking your tickets (Germany, the Czech Republic, Slovakia) but in places like Hungary you WILL find random people checking your tickets at any point. Usually once the train leaves and if you were not honest with your subway ride, be ready to pay a good fine.